Romney over Obama?

[Dr. Zhivodka]

That kook Orly Taitz and an O-5 Army Doc are two wildly different things IMO. I'm baffled how a 0-5 could let himself get suckered and throw away his career for something like this. Stunning.

Quote from Hello:

Look at Orly Taitz, she is apparently a Dentist, Lawyer and Real estate agent, or Look at the small number of engineers who are willing to throw a career and their percieved intelligence on the line in order to support ridiculous 9/11 theories.

There is something about conspiracy theorists which allows some of these otherwise hardworking and sane individuals to throw caution to the wind, and blow out their entire career based on an absurd Idea.

Often times i also find myself wondering how someone can work their way through the entire process of becoming sucessful(which requires people skills and sanity) only to make themselves look like a total lunatic based on a ridiculous conspiracy theory. I dont understand it either because while i have met many people who are successful who have minor quirks it seems very seldom that you meet a successful person who has no concept of logic whatsoever, infact i can honestly say i have never met a successful person who could not apply logic to anything they did. My only prediction would be that people like this have some warped sense which is totally devoid of logic that they will one day end up being a true hero for the history books and thats what drove them to get to the point of being successful and also made them look like a lunatic when they took their shot.

 

[Range Rover]

Quote from jem:

1. Would please show me where Obama himself has proffered a birth certificate to anyone and said that the birth certificate is accurate.



His passport application to the State Department,which he had to personally sign .Lying on that application or giving false documents is a federal crime.I believe that is also the case on state levels with issues like drivers licenses etc



2. When you say everyone has certified him... what exactly did they certify... what evidence did they rely on


The 2008 Presidential election as required by The Constitution

They relied on official state documents,which Obama has provided


3. A supreme court justice swore him in... does that really mean anything. He bumbled the oath does that mean anything? (this seems like throw away point to me.)


I think it does as I doubt a Supreme Court Justice would swear in someone as President who is constitutionally not eligible

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Range Rover:

His passport application to the State Department,which he had to personally sign .Lying on that application or giving false documents is a federal crime.

Hmmm, sounds like Dumbo should be doing time in a federal prison.

 

[Range Rover]

Quote from jem:



4. Does HI have the originals.. they said yes..
So if you are attempting to figure out if he is a natural born citizen and you are a court of law... you will ask to see the originals.

The highest court in the US says Hawaii's official birth certificate is all that you need to see



"She added that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state's current certification of live birth "as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements."




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According to Hawaii's Department of Health spokeswoman Janice Okubo, the state began issuing only "certifications of live birth" in 2001 when the health department went paperless. It is only available in electronic form, she said.



Asked for more information about the short-form versus long-form birth documents, Okubo said the Health Department "does not have a short-form or long-form certificate."


Okubo also emphasized the certification form "contains all the information needed by all federal government agencies for transactions requiring a birth certificate."

She added that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state's current certification of live birth "as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements."

 

[Range Rover]

Quote from Lucrum:

Hmmm, sounds like Dumbo should be doing time in a federal prison.

The only person who will be doing time over the issue is the Army birther

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Range Rover:

The only person who will be doing time over the issue is the Army birther

Yet another injustice.

 

[Range Rover]

Quote from Lucrum:

Yet another injustice.

I don't think it is.Congress certified and recognizes Barack Obama as President of the United States so no soldier has the right to question if he is or isnt.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Range Rover:

...Congress certified...

There was a time when that might have meant something. Given that congress is the source of most of our problems, it doesn't mean much to me anymore.

 

[Hello]

Quote from Dr. Zhivodka:

That kook Orly Taitz and an O-5 Army Doc are two wildly different things IMO. I'm baffled how a 0-5 could let himself get suckered and throw away his career for something like this. Stunning.

Im not sure what 0-5 means as it pertains to an army doc.(moved here 4 years ago) I will say this though, he most likely has the same delusions of grandeur that she(ORLY TAITZ) did. This is not designed to take anything away, only meant to prove my point that these conspiracy nuts suffer from a deep seeded psycosis, and they have some illusions of grandiosity, and though some of them are smart they are more then willing to throw their career down the toilet for a weak conspiracy theory.

They are willing to flush a career based on an unproven theory.
That, in and of itself, is enough for me to realise they are not dealing from a full deck.

 

[jem]

Quote from Range Rover:

The highest court in the US says Hawaii's official birth certificate is all that you need to see



"She added that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state's current certification of live birth "as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements."




----


According to Hawaii's Department of Health spokeswoman Janice Okubo, the state began issuing only "certifications of live birth" in 2001 when the health department went paperless. It is only available in electronic form, she said.



Asked for more information about the short-form versus long-form birth documents, Okubo said the Health Department "does not have a short-form or long-form certificate."


Okubo also emphasized the certification form "contains all the information needed by all federal government agencies for transactions requiring a birth certificate."

She added that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state's current certification of live birth "as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements."

You clearly do not understand what you read... or you are just being a hack.

who cares if it is an "official" birth certificate.

the issue is place of birth

When this issue gets tried the original records will be subpoenaed and if they have them they will be admitted. At that point the current birth certificate will not matter... even if it says Obama was born on Duke Kahanamoku's surf board while his kenyan dad was secretly working for Steve McGarrett and Dano.

Of course by then the original docs will be missing.

So a recently printed out Birth Certificate might be all the evidence we get.