Romney Looks Like the Next Pres

jem · Sep 16, 2012

ak dude you are now publishing false maps... NO Toss ups... what a joke.

the RCP electoral map...

Obama/Biden 237
Toss Ups 110
Romney/Ryan 191

and that count has many polls which over sample dems by a larger margin.

AK Forty Seven · Sep 16, 2012

Quote from jem:

ak dude you are now publishing false maps... NO Toss ups... what a joke.

the RCP electoral map...

Obama/Biden 237
Toss Ups 110
Romney/Ryan 191

and that count has many polls which over sample dems by a larger margin.

RCP doesn't think its a joke or they wouldn't be making it .The no toss up map shows who is winning in the polls in a state.Perfect map

AK Forty Seven · Sep 16, 2012

Quote from jem:

ak dude you are now publishing false maps... NO Toss ups... what a joke.

the RCP electoral map...

Obama/Biden 237
Toss Ups 110
Romney/Ryan 191

and that count has many polls which over sample dems by a larger margin.

So you still think Romney will win ?

mrbill · Sep 17, 2012

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

RCP doesn't think its a joke or they wouldn't be making it .The no toss up map shows who is winning in the polls in a state.Perfect map

Here's a good link to the tossup states.

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/swing-state/

PiggyBank · Sep 17, 2012

Quote from atticus:

Dude, I am a genius and arguably the most interesting man in the World. I drink Dos Equis.

Your game is on.

first things first, my whole reason for quoting you initially: If you are forced to pay into medicare, then you should take the benefits whether or not you agree with the program. I get your point that it is possible, if not likely, that most individuals will exceed their lifetime contributions into the system once on medicare. that is a flaw of the system. AND that still doesn't change the fact that you were forced to pay into it, so as an individual it really isn't your fault or problem that you will possibly be taking out more than you put in. I guess you don't agree with this but think of the alternative, you are forced to pay in, but receive nothing in return. Well wtf are you paying for then?

To me that makes no sense in principle or any other way, what say you?

jem · Sep 17, 2012

Rasmussen Tracking 9/14 - 9/16 1500 LV 3.0 45 47 Romney +2
Monmouth/SurveyUSA/Braun 9/13 - 9/16 1344 LV 2.7 48 45 Obama +3
Gallup Tracking 9/10 - 9/16 3050 RV 2.0 48 45 Obama +3

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If you open up the monmouth poll.

It was

35 D/ 34 I / 31 R and it has Obama up 3 with likely voters....

So when you run it through the balance algo... it is Romney up by about 1.

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So IMO... the race is close.... it will all depend on whether Ds turnout or Rs turnout.

I bet more Rs turnout than Ds..

so yes... AK as of now I still think Romney will win. but this is a fluid thing... the ME and the debates may be important.

atticus · Sep 17, 2012

Quote from jem:

Rasmussen Tracking 9/14 - 9/16 1500 LV 3.0 45 47 Romney +2
Monmouth/SurveyUSA/Braun 9/13 - 9/16 1344 LV 2.7 48 45 Obama +3
Gallup Tracking 9/10 - 9/16 3050 RV 2.0 48 45 Obama +3

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If you open up the monmouth poll.

It was

35 D/ 34 I / 31 R and it has Obama up 3 with likely voters....

So when you run it through the balance algo... it is Romney up by about 1.

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So IMO... the race is close.... it will all depend on whether Ds turnout or Rs turnout.

I bet more Rs turnout than Ds..

so yes... AK as of now I still think Romney will win. but this is a fluid thing... the ME and the debates may be important.

But you're not betting. You keep cherry-picking polls and you still lose. Stating it's within the MOE is pointless.

The Romney to win bet on intrade just hit NLs (since he became presumptive nominee)

atticus · Sep 17, 2012

Quote from PiggyBank:

I guess you don't agree with this but think of the alternative, you are forced to pay in, but receive nothing in return. Well wtf are you paying for then?

To me that makes no sense in principle or any other way, what say you?

Which Universe are you in? What system is this? Seriously, if you're going to make a case then try to use some semblance of logic. To argue that Medicare is busto in x-years is not the argument. None of the entitlements are funded in perpetuity.

Brass · Sep 17, 2012

Quote from jem:

...as of now I still think Romney will win. but this is a fluid thing... the ME and the debates may be important.

Then, by your own admission, your current thinking is irrelevant, isn't it? I know always thought so.

atticus · Sep 17, 2012

I'll abstain because I don't think either option is the answer, but god help Romney in the debates. It's worse than Biden v Palin.