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Quote from atticus:

My statement implies that people earning on W2s are paying through FICA and/or other means. 1.45% (2.9% if self-employed, corp) of gross, IIRC.

Assume that you earn an average salary of $120k for 35 years. You pay $60k into the system over your lifetime for virtually unlimited health benefits. Sure, you have a co-pay for the supplemental, but it's a pittance. Stenosis and a stent or two? You've exceeded your contribution on the first procedure. A week in ICU and you've doubled your LIFETIME contribution in benefits received.

Go try and get comprehensive health insurance (not hospitalization) at age 58 with a pre-existing condition. Let's see what you'll pay... well, don't bother as you're uninsurable.

football is on dude, so i will argue later. But you are straying from the point. You asked lucrum if he would be refrain form taking medicare out of principle. I am saying, in principle, you have a right to get your money plus a return back if you were forced to pay in. Since that isn't an option in medicare, then you should take the benefit.

My dad happened to have a stent put in a few years ago, he is on a private group plan and obviously his premiums weren't effected by the surgery, the private company eats the loss. There is a benefit to banning denial for pre-existing conditions or providing some incentive for a private alternative, but obamacare isn't the answer. If you have a preexisting condition you ARE more risky and your premiums logically have to be higher. i pay higher prems cause i smoke, it makes sense.
 
Quote from PiggyBank:

football is on dude, so i will argue later. But you are straying from the point. You asked lucrum if he would be refrain form taking medicare out of principle. I am saying, in principle, you have a right to get your money plus a return back if you were forced to pay in. Since that isn't an option in medicare, then you should take the benefit.

My dad happened to have a stent put in a few years ago, he is on a private group plan and obviously his premiums weren't effected by the surgery, the private company eats the loss. There is a benefit to banning denial for pre-existing conditions or providing some incentive for a private alternative, but obamacare isn't the answer. If you have a preexisting condition you ARE more risky and your premiums logically have to be higher. i pay higher prems cause i smoke, it makes sense.

lol forget it. (dickish comment removed)

If you read my last and the above is your response then you'll never get it. Not to ignore what you're stating, but whoosh.
 
Piggyback the America you want doesn't exsist and it's not going to exsist. Most of the country wants SS and healthcare so that's the way it's going to be. The far right can accept this and work to make the system better or keep crying unconstitutional. The Supreme Court says otherwise. America is a better place, our citizens are better off because we have SS and Medicare, there is no reasonable argument to counter this fact. No one wants to live in a country where the poor and elderly are left to starve and die, there are countries like this you can move to if that's what you really want.
 
Quote from atticus:

lol forget it. It's so woefully over your head that my comments here may as well be invisible. Thanks for the reply.

you're off topic. We weren't talking about the fiscal reality of medicare, but I forgot you are atticus the all knowing and are never wrong about anything ever so you didn't actually change the subject that is just my imagination playing tricks. /sarcasm
 
Quote from PiggyBank:

you're off topic. We weren't talking about the fiscal reality of medicare, but I forgot you are atticus the all knowing and are never wrong about anything ever so you didn't actually change the subject that is just my imagination playing tricks. /sarcasm

Dude, I am a genius and arguably the most interesting man in the World. I drink Dos Equis.

Your game is on.
 
Quote from atticus:

Dude, I am a genius and arguably the most interesting man in the World. I drink Dos Equis.

Your game is on.

lol well like i said football is on. I assure you that nothing you have said here is over my head and i will argue whatever with you, but i won't miss football to do so. so later brah.
 
Quote from atticus:

Dude, I am a genius and arguably the most interesting man in the World. I drink Dos Equis.

Your game is on.

Yep and in real life; if we were to ever meet I'd happily rip your head off and shit down your neck.

Wouldn't disturb my peace at all.
 
Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

Yep and in real life; if we were to ever meet I'd happily rip your head off and shit down your neck.

Wouldn't disturb my peace at all.
I think he meant to say he is a Genie. Make sure you get your 3 wishes first.
 
Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

Yep and in real life; if we were to ever meet I'd happily rip your head off and shit down your neck.

Wouldn't disturb my peace at all.

Aww shucks. It's comical that you let me get into your head.
 
Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

Yep and in real life; if we were to ever meet I'd happily rip your head off and shit down your neck.

Wouldn't disturb my peace at all.

LOLOLOLOL
 
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