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exGOPer said:
First, you completely ignored my point about how the progressive caucus didn't do anything about the debt limit bill. They let Trump have his way without even trying.

Second, progs in the House and Senate could have blocked the debt limit bill if they were strong, why didn't they? They could have said no. Blocking bills in the Senate is child's play if progs wanted.
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Progs don't give a shit about the debt limit but raising it ,they don't play games with US credit.I understand you having to come up with all these strawmen to defend Biden fucking his voters on the debt limit deal though.
 
exGOPer said:
Why is Brown acceptable when he is doing same things as Biden like being against court expansion and voting for the debt ceiling bill?
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Tony Stark said:
Progs don't give a shit about the debt limit but raising it ,they don't play games with US credit.I understand you having to come up with all these strawmen to defend Biden fucking his voters on the debt limit deal though.
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But that is exactly my point, Biden had to deal with GOP's games on debt limit, Trump didn't.

However you call Trump strong for no doing of his own and Biden weak, how is this not hypocrisy and double standard?

If Biden fucked his voters, then so did Sherrod Brown who you say is an acceptable prog

“Not a hard call,” said Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) of his support.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/01/progressive-anger-debt-deal-00099541

Or you will continue your hypocrisy game?
 
exGOPer said:
But that is exactly my point, Biden had to deal with GOP's games on debt limit, Trump didn't.

However you call Trump strong for no doing of his own and Biden weak, how is this not hypocrisy and double standard?

If Biden fucked his voters, then so did Sherrod Brown who you say is an acceptable prog

“Not a hard call,” said Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) of his support.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/01/progressive-anger-debt-deal-00099541

Or you will continue your hypocrisy game?
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No Biden didn't.He could have said I am not negotiating the debt limit and meant it.
 
Tony Stark said:
No Biden didn't.He could have said I am not negotiating the debt limit and meant it.
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And if the debt limit was hit, then what? Who would get the blame for the economic implosion? GOP who offered to negotiate or the guy who refused to?
 
exGOPer said:
But that is exactly my point, Biden had to deal with GOP's games on debt limit, Trump didn't.

However you call Trump strong for no doing of his own and Biden weak, how is this not hypocrisy and double standard?

If Biden fucked his voters, then so did Sherrod Brown who you say is an acceptable prog

“Not a hard call,” said Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) of his support.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/01/progressive-anger-debt-deal-00099541

Or you will continue your hypocrisy game?
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Brown is not President.Just because he voted for the bill the president made to pay the bills doesn't mean he would have made that same deal as president.
 
Tony Stark said:
Brown is not President.Just because he voted for the bill the president made to pay the bills doesn't mean he would have made that same deal as president.
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Then he could have refused to vote for it like Fetterman instead of supporting it.
 
exGOPer said:
Then he could have refused to vote for it like Fetterman instead of supporting it.
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Voting for a bad deal is not as bad as making a bad deal.I do like Fetterman more than Brown.

Fetterman won with serious health issues,he wouldn't have if he was a moderate.
 
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