Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is running for president.

Green Party members will vote Dem if Dems put up an acceptable candidate.Dems cant win without Green Party members as 2000 and 2016 has shown and 2024 will show.

They will only matter if turnout is low, with abortion and Trump on the ballot, I don't think turnout will be low.
 
I may have misunderstood you.I never thought "Biden was more hated than Trump" amongst Dems.He is hated overall as much/more as Trump and no president this hated has won re election since polling started.

Maybe I (or exGOPer) read too much into your fringe cases example. Maybe exGOPer just doesn't believe you know said people and were making up arguments to counter a point:

What?That people are considering Trump or Hitler? I do know some people so pissed off at Biden that they said they will vote Trump.These are Dems who hate Trump,but they hate Biden more.
 
They will only matter if turnout is low, with abortion and Trump on the ballot, I don't think turnout will be low.


Possible.Abortion is Dems only chance imo.Question is will it overcome low black and prog voter turnout and high Green Party turnout imo.

Higher approval than disapproval is undefeated predicting if an incumbent will win re election,thats mostly what Im making my prediction on followed by my what my political circle ,which is large due to volunteering for Dems since 2008,plans to do.
 
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Maybe I (or exGOPer) read too much into your fringe cases example. Maybe exGOPer just doesn't believe you know said people and were making up arguments to counter a point:


I do know many Dems that hate Biden more than Trump.I dont think overall nationwide Dems hate Biden more than Trump.


"I do know some people so pissed off at Biden that they said they will vote Trump."
 
I do know many Dems that hate Biden more than Trump.I dont think overall nationwide Dems hate Biden more than Trump.


"I do know some people so pissed off at Biden that they said they will vote Trump."

LOL, I will vote 'for a fascist conservative' because the moderate Democrat didn't deliver on all his promises.
 
I do know many Dems that hate Biden more than Trump.I dont think overall nationwide Dems hate Biden more than Trump.


"I do know some people so pissed off at Biden that they said they will vote Trump."

They are being tribal and ignoring the facts. This was months ago, could use some updates.

Maybe they are pissed because Biden wants the 1% to pay their fair share of tax.

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They are being tribal and ignoring the facts. This was months ago, could use some updates.

Maybe they are pissed because Biden wants the 1% to pay their fair share of tax.




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The sentiment Im seeing in my left wing political circle is the same Im seeing in nationwide polls.
 
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Maybe they are pissed because Biden wants the 1% to pay their fair share of tax.

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We all want the 1% to pay their fair share of taxes.Biden could have demanded repeal of The Trump tax cuxs in the debt deal,but didn't.Biden gave up 1.5 trillion in spending cuts to the poor,elderly and disabled and restarted student loan payments on the middle class and got nothing in return.
 
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Rfk lost my vote with the school shooting position.He would have lost it with the Russia statement as well.Its Green Party/West for me.

He lost my consideration based on the company he keeps
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The sentiment Im seeing in my left wing political circle is the same Im seeing in nationwide polls.


Democrats aren't very good story tellers compared to Republicans. Honestly surprised his numbers are that low.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politic...n-cooperation-among-the-nations-top-problems/
 
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