Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is running for president.

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Sure there's disappointment, but this reads like speculation.

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Its reflected in the polling as well.Obama and Clintons black approval in the 80s and 90s,Bidens in the 50s.Obama and Clinton net positve approval,Biden negative 15.

One of this forums biggest GOP haters ,me,who has voted,volunteered and donated to Dems since 2008,not doing it in 2024.

 

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35 approve,62 disapprove

-25 to - 35 net approval with most groups.


1.5 trillion in cuts to the poor,elderly and disabled.Student loan payments restarted for the middle class so the student loan profiteers can get paid.Oh,and nothing in return for Dems.

Dems and the Biden supporting media actually thought they could spin Biden royally fucking Dem voters again with this debt deal as a win for Biden.

 

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Student loan payments restarted for the middle class so the student loan profiteers can get paid.Oh,and nothing in return for Dems.

Speaking of student loan payments.I know many people who voted for Biden and were using this time to pay down or pay off other debt so when the payments restarted they wouldn't be as bad because they had paid other debt off.Most thought Uncle Joe would put them above the loan profiteers and let the payments restart under a republican president,or at least until Uncles Joes 2nd term.They also thought Uncle Joe would be canceling 10,000 of their student debt,he said he would.Needless to say they wont be voting for Biden again.

They shouldn't be surprised,Biden played a huge part in crafting and getting the bill passed that stopped letting student loan debt be discharged in bankruptcy.Silly them thinking Delaware financial services Joe would put them above the loan profiteers.

I actually thought Joe was keeping his word on canceling some debt,until it was explained to me he used the weakest argument to cancel the debt,the argument that is most likely to be overruled by the courts.There is a law that specifically says the education secretary can discharge student debt.Elizabeth Warren and other progs told him to use this law to discharge the debt as it would be the strongest and hardest for the courts to overrule,but Biden choose the weakest choice.If the courts overrule his covid argument to discharge the debt will he try again with the law that says the education secretary can discharge student debt? By now we should all know the answer to that.Silly me for thinking Joe the back stabbing snake Biden actually kept his word on canceling some student debt.

Just like fucking police reform supporters at The State of The Union,the climate voters on fracking and drilling,the poor on the debt limit deal etc he cant blame Manchin and Senima for this.

 

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Disapproval is specifically asked.When somebody says they disapprove rather than don't know that person is likely go out and vote against you rather than just stay home.In 2019 I was posting that Trump was toast because of his net approval and disapproval.Biden's is even worst than Trumps,and unlike Trump Biden has to win by 4-7 points to win The EC.

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Looks like my interpretation was even less charitable than yours. I didn't even expect "indifference" to be that high so just lumped in disapproval:

If I don't approve of a candidate, it means I disapprove, the choice is binary so I'm not sure what you're talking about. I suppose the "I don't know/indifferent" low info voters take a chunk out of that.

Which goes back to the original claim, I still don't see "Biden being more hated than Trump" amongst dems as being a thing:

Trump-exacerbated inflation did put a ton of people on distress during Joe's term, but yeah, not buying it. Trump hardly broke 10% amongst dems his whole term.

 

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Looks like my interpretation was even less charitable than yours. I didn't even expect "indifference" to be that high so just lumped in disapproval:



Which goes back to the original claim, I still don't see "Biden being more hated than Trump" amongst dems as being a thing:

I may have misunderstood you.I never thought "Biden was more hated than Trump" amongst Dems.He is hated overall as much/more as Trump and no president this hated has won re election since polling started.

 

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Of course there are progs like that, but they were DSA or Green Party members to start with, they were never Dems.

Green Party members will vote Dem if Dems put up an acceptable candidate.Dems cant win without Green Party members as 2000 and 2016 has shown and 2024 will show.