RIP, Spygate May 24th, 2018 — May 25th, 2018
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you are a smart guy, why do you resort to fake arguments?
you have a few real ones... lay them out without bullshit and we would take you much more seriously.
1. We were anti corrupt swamp long before Bannon and Breitbart which was long before Trump gained traction. Trump got elected because he was the only guy to really push anti immigration... then he closed the deal in the last few months when Bannon got on board and he become anti swamp and increased his pro american worker rhetoric. We planted the thoughts in Trumps brain... not the other way around as you stated. The sad thing is you know that... so why b.s.?
2. As can be read in the link to the Hill article.
The FBI engaged this informant or spy to do operations on Trump.
They participated with Hillary to hire a spy to get info from Russians and used they oppo research to get warrants to spy. They must have had nothing on these people because previous FISA request had failed.
3. The IRS was weoponized against conservatives.
So yeah your post was silly especially because when you call me honey, you sound like a faggot.
you have a few real ones... lay them out without bullshit and we would take you much more seriously.
1. We were anti corrupt swamp long before Bannon and Breitbart which was long before Trump gained traction. Trump got elected because he was the only guy to really push anti immigration... then he closed the deal in the last few months when Bannon got on board and he become anti swamp and increased his pro american worker rhetoric. We planted the thoughts in Trumps brain... not the other way around as you stated. The sad thing is you know that... so why b.s.?
2. As can be read in the link to the Hill article.
The FBI engaged this informant or spy to do operations on Trump.
They participated with Hillary to hire a spy to get info from Russians and used they oppo research to get warrants to spy. They must have had nothing on these people because previous FISA request had failed.
3. The IRS was weoponized against conservatives.
So yeah your post was silly especially because when you call me honey, you sound like a faggot.
jem, Why not start with conjecture supportable by evidence. These statements have me completely baffled, as there is no support for them in actual evidence. The evidence is to the contrary.
I am moved to call you "honey" when you act like a pathetic little child whose dreamed of monsters, and I am moved to pat you on the head and say, "There , there, everything is going to be alright."
1) The FBI engaged this informant or spy to do operations on Trump; 2) They participated with Hillary to hire a spy to get info from Russians. 3) The IRS was weoponized against conservatives.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/28/us/politics/trump-conspiracy-theories-spygate.html
Former aides to the president, speaking privately because they did not want to embarrass him, said paranoia predisposed him to believe in nefarious, hidden forces driving events. But they also said political opportunism informed his promotion of conspiracy theories. For instance, two former aides said Mr. Trump had resisted using the term “deep state” for months, partly because he believed it made him look too much like a crank.
But Mr. Trump saw that it played well in the conservative news media, and so in November, he began using it, the two aides said. The strategy appears to have yielded results. Several polls have shown a dip in public approval of the special counsel investigation over the past several months, as the president has repeatedly attacked it. And a Monmouth Poll released in March found that a bipartisan majority believes an unelected “deep state” is manipulating national policy
Sam Nunberg, a former Trump aide who worked for him when he began championing false claims about Mr. Obama’s birthplace, said the president was reflecting the media that fueled his core supporters.
“In the new media landscape, InfoWars and Fox News are where the president’s getting his support, and these theories are promulgated there,” said Mr. Nunberg, who disputed that “Spygate” qualified as a conspiracy theory.
Mr. Trump’s talk of conspiracies has also gained currency within a Republican Party establishment that once shunned it.
During the 2016 campaign, Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, denounced Mr. Trump’s talk of the government hiding the real story about Sept. 11. “That’s something that really only comes from the kook part of America,” Mr. Graham said at the time.
Mr. Trump insisted last year that Mr. Obama had tapped his phones in Trump Tower, a stunning assertion for which he offered no proof.
“I thought, ‘Well, that doesn’t seem right to me,’” Mr. Graham said last week. But, he noted, it was later revealed that one of Mr. Trump’s former campaign associates, Carter Page, had in fact been under surveillance. And on “Spygate,” the senator added, “There seems to be something to this one. I want to find out: Did it happen? Is there a good reason?”
Senator John Cornyn, Republican of Texas, distanced himself from the president’s sinister language, but not necessarily the questions he had raised about the informant. “I wouldn’t describe it the way he described it,” Mr. Cornyn said. “Confidential informant? Spy? I guess he can use his own words.”
Then, like many lawmakers who once denounced the president’s assaults on law enforcement agencies, Mr. Cornyn gave the president a level of validation, saying it was worth knowing what the F.B.I.’s “motivation” was in the inquiry into the Trump campaign.
“A lot of people really want to believe a conspiracy because it’s a lot easier to think a malevolent force is in charge than that our government is run by idiots,” Mr. Erickson said in an interview.
Former aides to the president, speaking privately because they did not want to embarrass him, said paranoia predisposed him to believe in nefarious, hidden forces driving events. But they also said political opportunism informed his promotion of conspiracy theories. For instance, two former aides said Mr. Trump had resisted using the term “deep state” for months, partly because he believed it made him look too much like a crank.
But Mr. Trump saw that it played well in the conservative news media, and so in November, he began using it, the two aides said. The strategy appears to have yielded results. Several polls have shown a dip in public approval of the special counsel investigation over the past several months, as the president has repeatedly attacked it. And a Monmouth Poll released in March found that a bipartisan majority believes an unelected “deep state” is manipulating national policy
Sam Nunberg, a former Trump aide who worked for him when he began championing false claims about Mr. Obama’s birthplace, said the president was reflecting the media that fueled his core supporters.
“In the new media landscape, InfoWars and Fox News are where the president’s getting his support, and these theories are promulgated there,” said Mr. Nunberg, who disputed that “Spygate” qualified as a conspiracy theory.
Mr. Trump’s talk of conspiracies has also gained currency within a Republican Party establishment that once shunned it.
During the 2016 campaign, Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, denounced Mr. Trump’s talk of the government hiding the real story about Sept. 11. “That’s something that really only comes from the kook part of America,” Mr. Graham said at the time.
Mr. Trump insisted last year that Mr. Obama had tapped his phones in Trump Tower, a stunning assertion for which he offered no proof.
“I thought, ‘Well, that doesn’t seem right to me,’” Mr. Graham said last week. But, he noted, it was later revealed that one of Mr. Trump’s former campaign associates, Carter Page, had in fact been under surveillance. And on “Spygate,” the senator added, “There seems to be something to this one. I want to find out: Did it happen? Is there a good reason?”
Senator John Cornyn, Republican of Texas, distanced himself from the president’s sinister language, but not necessarily the questions he had raised about the informant. “I wouldn’t describe it the way he described it,” Mr. Cornyn said. “Confidential informant? Spy? I guess he can use his own words.”
Then, like many lawmakers who once denounced the president’s assaults on law enforcement agencies, Mr. Cornyn gave the president a level of validation, saying it was worth knowing what the F.B.I.’s “motivation” was in the inquiry into the Trump campaign.
“A lot of people really want to believe a conspiracy because it’s a lot easier to think a malevolent force is in charge than that our government is run by idiots,” Mr. Erickson said in an interview.
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1. The spy paid Papadoupolis. You think he did that without consulting with FBI?
2. Hillary paid for the Oppo/ Dossier meme from an English spy who got his info from Russians
The FBI offered to continue to pay for it.
3. For a bout a year when we spoke about the IRS targeting conservatives you gave us the Pro publica... george soro denial b.s. It came out that they admitted they did target.
but you know all that so why the b.s?
2. Hillary paid for the Oppo/ Dossier meme from an English spy who got his info from Russians
The FBI offered to continue to pay for it.
3. For a bout a year when we spoke about the IRS targeting conservatives you gave us the Pro publica... george soro denial b.s. It came out that they admitted they did target.
but you know all that so why the b.s?
