Richest 10% pays 70% of income taxes

Quote from tomdavis:

A more interesting analysis would show who pays what percentage of the total tax bill including state income taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, etc.

Indeed!
 
Quote from Lucrum:

I'm trying to imagine what it'd be like for you guys in the UK to mind your own fucking business. And for Christ's sake, take that Piers Morgan asshole back will ya?
I didn't know cuntvertibility was a limey?

Good to know that stupidity doesn't reside here.
 
One of the features of Convertibility's graph that immediately caught my eye was how much flatter this histogram must now be compared to the same histogram plotted for mid 1950's data. There doesn't seem to be any question that our income tax has become less progressive with time.

With concentration of wealth goes concentration of political power. Good up to a point if you are wealthy and are happy to live in a less egalitarian country. Bad if you prefer greater opportunity for self-determination, democracy and residing in a more egalitarian country.

Of interest might be total taxes net of total government payments received. For the poor this might be possible to accurately compute, but would it be possible to accurately compute the effect of billions in direct and indirect government subsidy of corporate incomes on net of unearned income of the wealthy? I doubt it.

Perhaps another approach is more likely to yield meaningful results. For example, the within population, change over time in the distribution of living standards, based on some broadly accepted international standard, might be enlightening.
 
Quote from piezoe:

One of the features of Convertibility's graph that immediately caught my eye was how much flatter this histogram must now be compared to the same histogram plotted for mid 1950's data. There doesn't seem to be any question that our income tax has become less progressive with time.

With concentration of wealth goes concentration of political power. Good up to a point if you are wealthy and are happy to live in a less egalitarian country. Bad if you prefer greater opportunity for self-determination, democracy and residing in a more egalitarian country.

Of interest might be total taxes net of total government payments received. For the poor this might be possible to accurately compute, but would it be possible to accurately compute the effect of billions in direct and indirect government subsidy of corporate incomes on net of unearned income of the wealthy? I doubt it.

Perhaps another approach is more likely to yield meaningful results. For example, the within population, change over time in the distribution of living standards, based on some broadly accepted international standard, might be enlightening.
where do you come up with this stupid stuff?

It's none of the govts concern about "concentration of wealth".
 
All top 10% pay way too much, however ultra wealthy, who are a tiny fraction of top 1% are not paying their fare share. There is the whole industry that uses elaborate schemes to help them paying a much smaller % than the rest of us. Yet, they get to enjoy all the same benefits as we all, plus a lot more of course. It is a simple as that.
 
Quote from RedDuke:

All top 10% pay way too much, however ultra wealthy, who are a tiny fraction of top 1% are not paying their fare share. There is the whole industry that uses elaborate schemes to help them paying a much smaller % than the rest of us. Yet, they get to enjoy all the same benefits as we all, plus a lot more of course. It is a simple as that.
Obviously as rich democraps demonstrate when your wealth reaches somewhere around 100 million or so or greater ,taxes no longer meaningfully impact your life.

I'm not going to sit here and give any credence to some piece of shit liberal billionaire (who 1 way or another exempts himself) tell me I need to pay higher marginal tax rates.

They deserve to have their spleens pulled out via their assholes.
 
Quote from RedDuke:

All top 10% pay way too much, however ultra wealthy, who are a tiny fraction of top 1% are not paying their fare share. There is the whole industry that uses elaborate schemes to help them paying a much smaller % than the rest of us. Yet, they get to enjoy all the same benefits as we all, plus a lot more of course. It is a simple as that.

it could be much more simple than that. Whatever we tax, income, property, consumption, etc.. everyone should pay the same %. No loopholes, no deductions, just a flat rate. That is FAIR, it's the same whether you make 10k or 10B, you are contributing your share. As for those guys at the top, who are for the most part hated out of sheer envy, I say congrats. (Except to those in the "do as I say, not as I do" crowd, like Buffet. Fuck them.)

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Quote from PiggyBank:

it could be much more simple than that. Whatever we tax, income, property, consumption, etc.. everyone should pay the same %. No loopholes, no deductions, just a flat rate. That is FAIR, it's the same whether you make 10k or 10B, you are contributing your share. [/B]
No large modern society practices this, for a very basic economic reason (already mentioned): marginal utility.
 
Quote from Ricter:

No large modern society practices this, for a very basic economic reason (already mentioned): marginal utility.

Is that anything like your marginal intelligence or marginal understanding of economics or...?
 
Quote from PiggyBank:

it could be much more simple than that. Whatever we tax, income, property, consumption, etc.. everyone should pay the same %. No loopholes, no deductions, just a flat rate. That is FAIR, it's the same whether you make 10k or 10B, you are contributing your share. As for those guys at the top, who are for the most part hated out of sheer envy, I say congrats. (Except to those in the "do as I say, not as I do" crowd, like Buffet. Fuck them.)

(Except to those in the "do as I say, not as I do" crowd, like Buffet. Fuck them.)

You forgot Romney :eek: !
 
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