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you must be the only fool in the world would watch that video and say that.

So when he gave the list to explain the possible explanations of the knife's edge fine tuning...

you were saying he was joking about a Tuner... but serious about infinite alternate universes?

are you really that stupid or that much of liar?

By the way are you still lying the appearance of fine tuning.
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you silly goofball. watch the video again, in the introduction it says:

leonard susskind author of "the cosmic landscape:string theory and the ILLUSION of intelligent design.do you know what an illusion is?

further in the video he mentions the word "who" when describing how the universe began. then he goes on to explain how scientists use "who" as a figure of speech they dont really think there is a "who" involved.
i will give you this. you really are presistant mind bot but maybe you should move on down to teaching sunday school where they will swallow the bs you are peddling.
 
you can lead a et athiest to science but it is now clear as a bell you can not make him think or tell the truth.

Susskind tells you about the knifes edge fine tuning of the cosmological constants... just like weinberg...


Suskind states here are 4 possibilities to explain the knife's edge fine tuning...

1. God (that is correct... susskind says it)
2. luck
3. megaverse/ multiverse
4. someday find a theory of everything.

http://www.closertotruth.com/video-...d-Susskind-/431
 
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Watch again jem, you're not listening or not hearing.
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we have two videos from susskind...

1. in which he lists the four explanations for the knifes edge fine tuning..

2.
and your video... in which he tells you his "belief". and in which he qualifies his answer by referring to the multiverse explanation... (which he wrote a book about)

you need to listen to the end of the video. At 2 minutes... he says that is the view from one version of cosmology. He explains to you about the different enviroments (universes) and we live a small fraction of them which is hospitable to life. This is explanation 3 in the video I presented.
 
Jem you place so much of your life's beliefs on snippets from intellectuals. Why are you a Christian when the vast majority of the same intellectuals think Christianity is an old world myth not based on any facts. You pick and chose what you want to here based on what will back up your beliefs in Jesus. You make a dishonest argument on science.
 
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Jem you place so much of your life's beliefs on snippets from intellectuals. Why are you a Christian when the vast majority of the same intellectuals think Christianity is an old world myth not based on any facts. You pick and chose what you want to here based on what will back up your beliefs in Jesus. You make a dishonest argument on science.
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I understand this subject of fine tuning pretty well.
I enjoy learning physics and cosmology.
If I had the time I would go back and learn the math.
This has nothing to do with snipets.
I am giving you the important snipets to prove my point.

My Christianity comes from faith, observation, and study.
If I thought it were an old world myth, I would agree with you.

But the shroud of turin alone, should give you pause to think it may not be a myth.
 
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But the shroud of turin alone, should give you pause to think it may not be a myth. [/B]
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you call yourself a scientist but you show no ability to think critically. the shroud is so bogus. prior minimal testing has dated it to the 13th century. we have no idea who the man was and the catholic church refuses to let scientists access to test it with modern methods.




Shroud of Turin Not Jesus', Tomb Discovery Suggests
The weave of the Tomb of the Shroud fabric, the new study says, casts further doubt on the Shroud of Turin as Jesus' burial cloth.

The newfound shroud was something of a patchwork of simply woven linen and wool textiles, the study found. The Shroud of Turin, by contrast, is made of a single textile woven in a complex twill pattern, a type of cloth not known to have been available in the region until medieval times, Gibson said.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/12/091216-shroud-of-turin-jesus-jerusalem-leprosy/
 
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I understand this subject of fine tuning pretty well.
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lol.. I mean seriously, ..Lol!

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I enjoy learning physics and cosmology.
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It doesn't look like it. You apparently prefer to draw false inferences to reach incorrect conclusions from misrepresenting physicists and cosmologists .

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If I had the time I would go back and learn the math.
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Start at 1+1=2 not 3 which you're always ending up at.
 
Quote from stu:

lol.. I mean seriously, ..Lol!


It doesn't look like it. You apparently prefer to draw false inferences to reach incorrect conclusions from misrepresenting physicists and cosmologists .


Start at 1+1=2 not 3 which you're always ending up at.
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I present videos and whole papers. I present famous scientist's opinions.
You present warped stuologies.

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The pros..

there are arguments on both sides... but the current science has no explanation for a how an image like that can be placed on a cloth.
I find that very interesting.

the major con... carbon dating a few decades ago seemed to place the cloth at a later date... although since then the carbon dating has been challenged by some scientists on the project... because of issues like location.

I would like to see new carbon testing done.


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What do you think your video is saying.
Normally you send me on wild goose chases... so I want to know the point.

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you call yourself a scientist but you show no ability to think critically. the shroud is so bogus. prior minimal testing has dated it to the 13th century. we have no idea who the man was and the catholic church refuses to let scientists access to test it with modern methods.




Shroud of Turin Not Jesus', Tomb Discovery Suggests
The weave of the Tomb of the Shroud fabric, the new study says, casts further doubt on the Shroud of Turin as Jesus' burial cloth.

The newfound shroud was something of a patchwork of simply woven linen and wool textiles, the study found. The Shroud of Turin, by contrast, is made of a single textile woven in a complex twill pattern, a type of cloth not known to have been available in the region until medieval times, Gibson said.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/12/091216-shroud-of-turin-jesus-jerusalem-leprosy/
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