Ok, Cuz has referred to "proven" lies by Clarke.
Max kindly reponded to my question with a link to Fox News (with material I had already read, but thanks again Max)
Since Cuz will only laugh at my question I have no way of knowing if the link that Max provided is the same material as Cuz refers to, but IF IT IS, THERE IS NOTHING PROVEN THERE.
Hey, perhaps he lied...I don't yet know and it would sure as hell influence my feelings about his credibility. However, having Bill Frist say it's so doesn't make it so.
Far from "proven" so far.
JB