republicans. they cant all be this stupid? rape cant get a woman pregnant?

bigarrow · Aug 21, 2012

Quote from Lucrum:

SOME women do not, but then some men don't either.
But then I didn't say no women pay income taxes. I asked why people not paying income taxes should get to decide how much I pay and where it's spent.

In response to your suggestion that women be allowed to decide "female issues".

This should cheer you up Lucrum. The congress decides how much tax you pay and where it's spent and all the congress men and women are on the payroll. You will sleep well tonight my friend one less worry for your weary mind.

Lucrum · Aug 21, 2012

Quote from bigarrow:

This should cheer you up Lucrum. The congress decides how much tax you pay and where it's spent and all the congress men and women are on the payroll. You will sleep well tonight my friend one less worry for your weary mind.

A congress elected in part by voters who pay no income tax and have no skin in the game. A congress who largely panders to voters with no skin in the game in exchange for votes. Or did you miss that part?

PHOENIX TRADING · Aug 21, 2012

Quote from Lucrum:

SOME women do not, but then some men don't either.
But then I didn't say no women pay income taxes. I asked why people not paying income taxes should get to decide how much I pay and where it's spent.

In response to your suggestion that women be allowed to decide "female issues".

It's pretty sad when someone is soo stupid that they misrepresent your position, isn't it?

Lucrum · Aug 21, 2012

Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

It's pretty sad when someone is soo stupid that they misrepresent your position, isn't it?

Happens all the time around here.

zdreg · Aug 21, 2012

Lucrum

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New Post 08-21-12 09:48 AM

Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

It's pretty sad when someone is soo stupid that they misrepresent your position, isn't it?

Happens all the time around here.
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some posters never take a trading position.

Martinghoul · Aug 21, 2012

Quote from Lucrum:
SOME women do not, but then some men don't either.
But then I didn't say no women pay income taxes. I asked why people not paying income taxes should get to decide how much I pay and where it's spent.

In response to your suggestion that women be allowed to decide "female issues".

I am sorry, but I don't understand your point, Lucrum, and I am not consciously trying to misrepresent what you said.

From the data I have been able to obtain (US Census and IRS), a comparable percentage of the female population (34.5%) declares their income to the IRS (and, I assume, pays taxes) as that of the male population (41.5%). Obviously, given that their total share of income is smth like 50%, you can certainly say that they pay less taxes.

At any rate, I don't really see how this is relevant. After all, my suggestion had nothing to do with who pays for the abortions. I am only suggesting that the legality of of abortion (esp where it concerns rape victims) should be determined by women, possibly of child-bearing age. Suppose that abortions are not taxpayer-funded. Would you have a problem with my idea?

trendlover · Aug 21, 2012

QUOTE]Quote from jem:

This is what he said.

âFirst of all, from what I understand from doctors [pregnancy from rape] is really rare,â

so no thinkers headline is a lie..
Whether his statement is true or not... I have no idea. [/QUOTE]
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Quote from Free Thinker:

did you take biology in school? you know from the science that it would make no difference how the sperm got in there. you know its not true.
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Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

That's absolutely incorrect and a stunning display of your ignorance.

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Quote from Free Thinker:

Is a given instance of rape more likely to result in pregnancy than a given instance of consensual sex? This paper undertakes a review and critique of the literature on rape-pregnancy. Next, it presents our own estimation, from U.S. government data, of pregnancy rates for reproductive age victims of penile-vaginal rape. Using data on birth control usage from the Statistical Abstract of the United States, we then form an estimate of rapepregnancy rates adjusted for the substantial number of women in our sample who would likely have been protected by oral contraception or an IUD. Our analysis suggests that per-incident rape-pregnancy rates exceed per-incident consensual pregnancy rates by a sizable margin, even before adjusting for the use of relevant forms of birth control. Possible explanations for this phenomenon are discussed, as are its implications to ongoing debates over the ultimate causes of rape.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/wp5cnp43k6byxj4d/

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Phoenix, please apologize to poster freethinker.

wildchild · Aug 21, 2012

Bill Clinton and Al Gore are both accused RAPISTS.

Maybe someone should ask these two subject matter experts.

Martinghoul · Aug 21, 2012

Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:
It's pretty sad when someone is soo stupid that they misrepresent your position, isn't it?

I am certainly willing to admit if I am stupid and misunderstood what Lucrum was trying to say.

However, infinitely sadder is someone who, while being incapable of engaging in direct conversation, feels the need to constantly interject their inanities.

Lucrum · Aug 21, 2012

Quote from Martinghoul:

I am sorry, but I don't understand your point, Lucrum, and I am not consciously trying to misrepresent what you said.

From the data I have been able to obtain (US Census and IRS), a comparable percentage of the female population (34.5%) declares their income to the IRS (and, I assume, pays taxes) as that of the male population (41.5%). Obviously, given that their total share of income is smth like 50%, you can certainly say that they pay less taxes.

At any rate, I don't really see how this is relevant. After all, my suggestion had nothing to do with who pays for the abortions. I am only suggesting that the legality of of abortion (esp where it concerns rape victims) should be determined by women, possibly of child-bearing age. Suppose that abortions are not taxpayer-funded. Would you have a problem with my idea?

You seem to be suggesting that ONLY women should decide female issues such as rape abortion etc.

I merely asked why not/suggested that only tax payers should vote on tax related issues.