Republicans now want even more handouts from California to subsidize red states

[exGOPer]

Let's take a look at reality...

This article from USA Today "New Yorkers lead pack in government benefits" compiled data showing which states had the highest per capita expenditures for every type of government-provided benefit and blue states top the list and red states made up most of the bottom 10.

Top 10 - Most dependent on government aid
1 New York
2 West Virginia
3 Rhode Island
4 Maine
5 Pennsylvania
6 Massachusetts
7 Vermont
8 Kentucky
9 Michigan
10 Connecticut

Bottom 10 - Least dependent on government aid
41 South Dakota
42 Nebraska
43 Wyoming
44 Idaho
45 Georgia
46 Texas
47 Nevada
48 Virginia
49 Colorado
50 Utah

You have posted this crap before

New York PAYS for it's own benefits, in fact New York is the LARGEST single contributor to the federal coffers and gets the least in return

This is about OTHERS paying for your welfare, New York and California pay for their own - Cons want Liberals to pay for their livelihood and then belittle them for their generosity.

 

[gwb-trading]

You have posted this crap before

New York PAYS for it's own benefits, in fact New York is the LARGEST single contributor to the federal coffers and gets the least in return

This is about OTHERS paying for your welfare, New York and California pay for their own - Cons want Liberals to pay for their livelihood and then belittle them for their generosity.

Only with fuzzy math pushed by the left does New York pay for its own "benefits". This is amply demonstrated by the USA Today article which provides the math.

 

[UsualName]

Only with fuzzy math pushed by the left does New York pay for its own "benefits". This is amply demonstrated by the USA Today article which provides the math.

Tom B said republicans are more educated than democrats, you are undermining that statement.

 

[gwb-trading]

Tom B said republicans are more educated than democrats, you are undermining that statement.

Amusing. Clearly you don't read the facts and figures. Start with the USA Today article and learn.

 

[exGOPer]

Only with fuzzy math pushed by the left does New York pay for its own "benefits". This is amply demonstrated by the USA Today article which provides the math.

Fuzzy math? That's federal balance of payments that you can download directly from government's website.

The USA today article talks about STATE BENEFITS, New York has high taxes and generous benefits - that's how it's supposed to work unlike Red states who have generous benefits paid for by New York.

Tell me the fuzzy math behind Mississippi - the most conservative state in the union paying the LEAST amount of taxes. Why the high correlation between conservatism and low income?

 

[exGOPer]

Amusing. Clearly you don't read the facts and figures. Start with the USA Today article and learn.

From YOUR USA Today article

"Overall, government checks flow from affluent states, generally in the Northeast and West, to less affluent states, especially in the South."

Thanks for the learning, it confirms what I and UsualName has been saying all along.

 

[UsualName]

Amusing. Clearly you don't read the facts and figures. Start with the USA Today article and learn.

This is not a debatable topic. Blue states pay the freight in this country. It is what it is.

 

[gwb-trading]

This is not a debatable topic. Blue states pay the freight in this country. It is what it is.

Well -- not to worry - Congress is about to take away the pre-tax 401K deductions used primarily by people in the top 20% living in blue states. It will add an additional $77 Billion per year to the federal budget.

The double whammy of 401K deduction changes and ending state/local tax deductions is going to create a entire new ball game when the blue states finally start paying their share on a family basis. Maybe while they are at it we can move all these unwanted military bases back to blue states -- and continue the claim that these represent federal welfare to the state where it is located.

 

[bullmarket79]

Well -- not to worry - Congress is about to take away the pre-tax 401K deductions used primarily by people in the top 20% living in blue states. It will add an additional $77 Billion per year to the federal budget.

The double whammy of 401K deduction changes and ending state/local tax deductions is going to create a entire new ball game when the blue states finally start paying their share on a family basis. Maybe while they are at it we can move all these unwanted military bases back to blue states -- and continue the claim that these represent federal welfare to the state where it is located.

https://www.thestreet.com/story/143...imits-will-hurt-fidelity-vanguard-and-tl.html I wonder how much money flow will move from savings and investing to current spending instead? Money flows might change quite a bit.

 

[gwb-trading]

https://www.thestreet.com/story/143...imits-will-hurt-fidelity-vanguard-and-tl.html I wonder how much money flow will move from savings and investing to current spending instead? Money flows might change quite a bit.

You have a point. It is also bad public policy from the perspective that people will even save less for retirement -- and the lack of retirement savings (and dearth of pension plans now) is a significant issue in the U.S.