Republicans are Finished.

Quote from Free Thinker:

aaa is in alternate reality as usual. the great republican leaders of the past were pragmatic leaders. what we have now are crazy religious ideologs:

Reagan has become a sainted figure within the GOP who, not incidentally, is the most successful and popular of the party's modern presidents.

But the Reagan reverie will doubtless overlook much of the Reagan reality.

As president, the conservative icon approved several tax increases to deal with a soaring budget deficit, repeatedly boosted the nation's debt limit, signed into law a bill granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants and, despite his anti-Washington rhetoric, oversaw an increase in the size and spending of the federal government. Before that, as California governor, he enacted what at the time was the largest state tax increase in American history. He also signed into law one of the nation's most permissive abortion bills; any Republican who tried that today would be cast out of the party.

The fact that Reagan often took the actions grudgingly speaks to what, by modern Republican standards, may be one of the greatest heresies of all: At bottom, Reagan was a pragmatist, willing, when necessary, to cut a deal and compromise.

"He had a strong set of core values and operated off of those," said Stuart Spencer, a GOP strategist who stood by Reagan's side for virtually his entire political career, starting with his first run for governor. "But when push came to shove, he did various things he didn't like doing, because he knew it was in the best interests of the state or country at the time."

Hence, christies speech. He wants to expand that tent. He knows it is too small.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Hispanics vote 2:1 democrat. i see no reason for that to improve. So why would republicans want more of them here?

Ironically, african americans are bearing the brunt of this invasion of hispanics. They are the ones who are losing jobs. But they stupidly support a party whose avowed goal is to bring in as many hispanics as possible and to give amnesty to those here illegally. Tell me how that helps AA's.

I did not respond right away because when you say AA's which group of AAs would you be referring to?
 
Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Yep.Houston,Dallas,San Antonino and Austin all have democratic mayors now

Republicans cant win the presidency without Texas's 38 electoral votes

Many of the right realize this, hence their vitriol.

The mainline GOP knows this too, but they have a lot catching up to do thanks to Mittens.
 
Quote from AK Forty Seven:

I'm thinking 10-15 years.I read that when the current group of Hispanic kids start voting Texas is expected to go blue

It will be devastating. With Texas, Cali, Illini, and NY automatic blue states, the electoral math becomes untenable. This is why the GOP knows they MUST get their party back from the Tea Party.
 
Quote from Free Thinker:

the powerful have a lot of things but they only have one vote. that fact makes them shake in their boots. if the voters are ever able to recognize that the are being manipulated by fearmongering republicans using gays,guns and god issues into voting against their own best interests the republicans just might be finished as a party.

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Quote from RCG Trader:

I did not respond right away because when you say AA's which group of AAs would you be referring to?

The ones voting 98% for obama.

Implicit in your question is the assumption that not all are being hurt by the hispanic influx. I find that remarkable. Are you willing to see your brethren suffer just because it doesn't affect you personally? Do AA's who manage to leave the urban ghetto just wash their hands and let the less fortunate fend for themselves? Or do they expect rich whites to take care of them?

It is just indisputable that this president has supported policies that are deadly to his most loyal constituency. Taxpayer paid-for abortion on demand, gay marriage, amnesty for illegals, they all are opposed by majorities of AA's and for good reasson. Obama knows however that this group will continue to vote against its own interests for racial reasons. Odd but they didn't get where they are by using common sense.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

The ones voting 98% for obama.

Implicit in your question is the assumption that not all are being hurt by the hispanic influx. I find that remarkable. Are you willing to see your brethren suffer just because it doesn't affect you personally? Do AA's who manage to leave the urban ghetto just wash their hands and let the less fortunate fend for themselves? Or do they expect rich whites to take care of them?

It is just indisputable that this president has supported policies that are deadly to his most loyal constituency. Taxpayer paid-for abortion on demand, gay marriage, amnesty for illegals, they all are opposed by majorities of AA's and for good reasson. Obama knows however that this group will continue to vote against its own interests for racial reasons. Odd but they didn't get where they are by using common sense.

WE vote 98% Obama because we have an instinctive concern about people talking about "conserving" things. Those values you wish to conserve had us squarely and until VERY recently LEGALLY at the bottom of the social hierarchy that conservatives want to conserve. We are not stupid AAA. All this talk about liberty was also spoken of in 1776, 1866, and 1966. When you mean liberty there is an open question about what kinds of liberties you propose and for whom.
 
Quote from RCG Trader:

WE vote 98% Obama because we have an instinctive concern about people talking about "conserving" things. Those values you wish to conserve had us squarely and until VERY recently LEGALLY at the bottom of the social hierarchy that conservatives want to conserve. We are not stupid AAA. All this talk about liberty was also spoken of in 1776, 1866, and 1966. When you mean liberty there is an open question about what kinds of liberties you propose and for whom.
Apparently you are stupid, since for the most part most of you are STILL at the bottom of the social hierarchy.
 
Just remember that parties often begin the re-alignment process when things shift against them radically.

Rand Paul was recently speaking about the republican party taking on a more libertarian tone in states such as California and New York and New England, as a possible way to make in roads into "blue states".

If the republican party is defeated this election, it would not surprise me to see them make significant changes in how they present themselves. I do not see them changing their support for the 2nd Amendment and being against abortion, but they will probably begin to change their tone on other issues, especially Hispanics and immigration. A lot of Hispanics have conservative values and will not necessarily vote democrat if they are courted properly by the republican party. The black vote is probably going to be solidly democratic for the foreseeable future, but there are not enough of us to insure democratic victories.
 
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