Republicans are a stupid bunch.

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why is it you receive no benifit [sic] from the house you bought?

as for interest being deductable on other consumable items, pray tell - what "consumable items" do consumers pay even remotely the same interest on as a house they've purchased?


because i paid cash for my house i dont recieve an interest deduction. as far as what consumable item costs the same in interest as a house many cars do.
 
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because i paid cash for my house i dont recieve an interest deduction. as far as what consumable item costs the same in interest as a house many cars do.

really? many cars are comparable to houses in terms of interest? what's the average US cost of a house? of a car? how many houses you think have 5 year mortgages? how many cars get 30 year ones? and i mean here, on planet earth.

it's good that you decided to pay cash for your house, but not many do that. how many do you think could?
 
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it's good that you decided to pay cash for your house, but not many do that. how many do you think could?

not many but since you always pop up on the right wing side of things maybe you can explain the conservative principle by which someone paying cash for a house should be made to subsidise those of you that use debt.
 
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not many but since you always pop up on the right wing side of things maybe you can explain the conservative principle by which someone paying cash for a house should be made to subsidise those of you that use debt.

wtf!

how does someone paying for a house in cash subsidize those of us who take out a loan?

instead of defending all of the aspects of your argument that i continue to shred holes in, you continue to come up with more bizarre points. i don't know if this is the way you learned to debate, or it's your attempt to redirect me from the fact that your original post (and article) was so poorly constructed with flimsy statistics.
 
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wtf!

how does someone paying for a house in cash subsidize those of us who take out a loan?



when you get a tax break that everyone does not get it is a subsidy. it costs the government money to give you an interest rate subsidy. taxpayers have to make up the difference.those of us that are more fiscally conservative have part of our taxes spent to pay for your subsidy.

i understand that the government does it to encourage homebuying but the fact remains it is a subsidy. its really not that hard to understand.
 
Funny how half of the obama administration are tax cheats. I suspect they are not included in "everyone".


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i am no fan of the irs but revenue has to be collected fairly from everyone. it is not fair to honest taxpayers to let some skirt the law.
we have a huge debt problem and they cut funding for the irs at a time when tax evasion is rampant. right here on et talk of tax evasion is a constant theme:

GOP looks to cut IRS budget despite returns

Every dollar the Internal Revenue Service spends for audits, liens and seizing property from tax cheats brings in more than $10, a rate of return so good the Obama administration wants to boost the agency's budget.

House Republicans, seeing the heavy hand of a too-big government, beg to differ. They've already voted to cut the IRS budget by $600 million this year and want bigger cuts in 2012.

The IRS has dramatically increased its pursuit of tax cheats in the past decade: Audits are up, property liens are up and asset seizures are way up. President Barack Obama and Democrats in Congress see stepped up enforcement as a good way to narrow the nation's staggering budget deficit without raising tax rates or cutting popular spending programs.
http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/news/national/article_8fd0597a-225b-5794-8983-3c479a527fa5.html
"It makes little sense to cut the agency that collects revenue," said Rep. Jose Serrano of New York, the top Democrat on the House subcommittee that oversees the IRS budget.
 
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so warren buffet, who likes to brag that he still lives in an old house and drives an old car and spends very little on luxuries should be allowed to pay almost nothing?
How many Gulfstreams does he own?
 
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when you get a tax break that everyone does not get it is a subsidy. it costs the government money to give you an interest rate subsidy. taxpayers have to make up the difference.those of us that are more fiscally conservative have part of our taxes spent to pay for your subsidy.

i understand that the government does it to encourage homebuying but the fact remains it is a subsidy. its really not that hard to understand.

no, it's not a subsidy! the house you purchase in cash is not more expensive because someone gets to deduct interest from their taxes. the government does not apply a higher tax bill to you because of the interest expense deduction. the amount of taxes paid by each individual does not go up variably based on how many people deduct interest expense on their return each year. and lastly, the government does not have a required amount of tax funds to receive each year, and if it does not receive that, splits among the populace the difference equally in order to hit that amount!

get a grasp of tax policy!
 
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no, it's not a subsidy! the house you purchase in cash is not more expensive because someone gets to deduct interest from their taxes. the government does not apply a higher tax bill to you because of the interest expense deduction. the amount of taxes paid by each individual does not go up variably based on how many people deduct interest expense on their return each year. and lastly, the government does not have a required amount of tax funds to receive each year, and if it does not receive that, splits among the populace the difference equally in order to hit that amount!

get a grasp of tax policy!

maybe you should call up your high school economics teacher. maybe he can explain it to you.

"It’s good that Obama has put the mortgage interest deduction on the table.
This is a huge housing subsidy that severely distorts the economy. But Obama doesn't go far enough. The mortgage interest deduction should be eliminated altogether.

It’s quite well known that the mortgage interest deduction channels too much of our wealth into housing and housing finance. People essentially pay a tax penalty for not taking on a mortgage—renting or buying with cash—"

http://www.cnbc.com/id/41579140/How_to_Eliminate_the_Mortgage_Interest_Subsidy_Without_Raising_Taxes
 
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maybe you should call up your high school economics teacher. maybe he can explain it to you.

"It’s good that Obama has put the mortgage interest deduction on the table.
This is a huge housing subsidy that severely distorts the economy. But Obama doesn't go far enough. The mortgage interest deduction should be eliminated altogether.

It’s quite well known that the mortgage interest deduction channels too much of our wealth into housing and housing finance. People essentially pay a tax penalty for not taking on a mortgage—renting or buying with cash—"

http://www.cnbc.com/id/41579140/How_to_Eliminate_the_Mortgage_Interest_Subsidy_Without_Raising_Taxes

maybe while I call my econ teacher, you can call your english teacher and learn reading comprehension. cut-and-paste, you're good at, though.

it is a "housing subsidy" because it subsidizes HOUSING by making the housing market bigger than it possibly could be. ie, if you removed the deduction, the housing market would crumble. that is what "subsidize" means in that sentence.

YOU, by paying cash, do not pay a single red cent more because someone takes out a loan to buy their house.

how thick can one person be?

if you still maintain the positively preposterous idea that you pay more as a cash buyer of a home because of those who take out mortgages, please walk me through the calculation of how this effects your tax rate. actual percentages and numbers please.

i mean, if you're being charged more, you should be able to show us how much, right?
 
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