Republicans are a stupid bunch.

[Free Thinker]

Quote from bone:

If Democrats were so fair, they had two full years of complete political domination in the Congressional and Executive Branches where they could have overhauled the tax code and made it more equitable.

OP, take another Daily KOS bong hit, because your arguement is indeed very weak when held under the light. Instead of overhauling the tax code, the Democrats chose to create another entitlement program, additional tax and regulatory burdens to support that entitlement, for which they are now reaping the fruits of that labor.

in case you hadnt noticed the dems had their hands full dealing with other issues fighting the party of no.
the repubs had eight years before that controlling all branches of government and nothing was done.
maybe you should just keep spending you valuable time shearing sheep in the vendor threads because what you wrote wasnt very well thought out.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Hello:

I can promise that under no cicumstance would there EVER be calls from me to triple the size of the IRS,(THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE 100% GUARANTEE) if the military was taking a hit, id tell the government to stop fucking waging wars, and pull all of our pointless bases we have overseas. The whole middle east is going up in smoke right now anyways what does it matter that we are fighting terrorists in afghanistan when they will inevitably take over a couple of these other middle eastern countries anyways.

Fair enough, I accept that. I did just use "triple" merely for emphasis.

As for our wars, I tend to agree with you, though to be fair to the other side I did note a good recent article from Foreign Affairs, or some magazine like that, doing a cost benefit analysis of our military interventions, and finding that they tend to pay off. Of course, lives were not given a dollar value. : )

 

[Trader666]

I can only imagine how boring and empty your life must be to obsess about us and our politics. Get a life.

Quote from Gayfly:

blah, blah, blah

 

[bone]

"in case you hadnt noticed the dems had their hands full dealing with other issues fighting the party of no. "

Yes, indeed. The Dems had to deal with a severe economic recession (for which the case can be made had it's genesis during a Republican administration), and the Repubs had to deal with Sept. 11 (for which the case can be made had it's genesis during a Democratic administration).

So what ? You can hire one million IRS agents and it won't change the tax code, and there won't be a proportional increase in revenues to agents hired. Any person, of any political sprectrum or bias, will pay the least amount of taxes they can given the tax code requirements.

Want to actually advance the arguement ? Have Buffet or Huffington or Soros pay the ordinary tax rate without deductions or alternative treatment. Only then could a progressive Democrat claim the high ground on that arguement.

For a 'Free Thinker', you are astonishingly one-dimensional and petty in terms of your arguement.

 

[Arnie]

Is it fair that over 40 million workers pay NO income tax? Many actually get money back in the form of credits, unearned income, etc...

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from bone:

...For a 'Free Thinker', you are astonishingly one-dimensional and petty in terms of your argument.

You noticed that too huh?

Quote from Arnie:

Is it fair that over 40 million workers pay NO income tax? Many actually get money back in the form of credits, unearned income, etc...

NO it's not. Unless maybe they want to give up their right to vote.

 

[Free Thinker]

Quote from bone:

[BSo what ? You can hire one million IRS agents and it won't change the tax code, and there won't be a proportional increase in revenues to agents hired. Any person, of any political sprectrum or bias, will pay the least amount of taxes they can given the tax code requirements.

[/B]

just in case you didnt have time to actually read the article i offer this little nugget:
"Every dollar the Internal Revenue Service spends for audits, liens and seizing property from tax cheats brings in more than $10"

but of course that would blow your whole arguement so we have to ignore that fact.
i dont believe that anyone who stays within the tax code requirements has anything to worry about from the irs.

 

[Ricter]

The fairness or unfairness of the tax code is a separate issue. Not that it's not worth discussing.

 

[Hello]

Again i will reiterate what i said before, this article very clearly says that for every 1 dollar spent on audits, liens and siezing property 10 dollars comes in. Why does the money cut out of the budget necessarily have to take away from the amount spent on auditsd liens and property siezure? Why cant it simply come off of the IRS salaries, or other areas where there is waste?

Quote from Free Thinker:

just in case you didnt have time to actually read the article i offer this little nugget:
"Every dollar the Internal Revenue Service spends for audits, liens and seizing property from tax cheats brings in more than $10"

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Hello:

Again i will reiterate what i said before, this article very clearly says that for every 1 dollar spent on audits, liens and siezing property 10 dollars comes in. Why does the money cut out of the budget necessarily have to take away from the amount spent on auditsd liens and property siezure? Why cant it simply come off of the IRS salaries, or other areas where there is waste?

Hello, I don't want to argue with you per se, it's just that you're one of the few, or two, on the "other side" here today who can argue without using "libturd" and "nazi".

Ok, are IRS officers overcompensated? Are they efficient, or not? If they are efficient, one would predict fewer audits if their numbers were reduced, unless we want to pay them overtime.