Regarding the Existence or Absence of God

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Thunderbolt...where were you when we needed you for the fantasy football draft?

I don't think the Saint's defense was taken. You would have been lock!

Really man, why didn't you join the fun?
I am changing my teams name in your honor.

:)
 
He claimed to be able to give everlasting life

He didn't just tell people how they could find everlasting life, or deepen their own life experience. He actually claimed to give life himself.

John 6:40 "For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."

John 6:47 "I tell you the truth, he who believes has everlasting life."

John 10:28-30 "I give [my followers] eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are one."

John 11:25 "Jesus said to her, 'I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die...'"
 
137 pages later and the theists continue
to be destroyed in debate :D

This is easer than trading during the internet bubble :D

axeman


Originally posted by aphexcoil
135+ Pages later, we are still no closer to unraveling the secrets of the universe.
 
Originally posted by daniel_m



That is simply one BIG FAT LIE!

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Daniel...you are wrong and he is right. First choice was "myth" (legend). No lie. Included it as a possibility. Right Thunder?
 
137 pages later and the theists continue
to be destroyed in debate

This is easer than trading during the internet bubble

What will be even funnier is if God does exist and you stand before him with your smart ass remarks with a lot of explaining to do.

You can have your fun now while you are healthy and happy, but one day when you're struggling for your last breath, you'll probably get religious really fast.
 
He claimed that he would die and come back to life

John 10:17 "Just as the Father knows me and I know the Father--and I lay down my life for the sheep. The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life--only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father."

John 12:32-33 "'But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself.' He said this to show the kind of death he was going to die."

John 16:16 "In a little while you will see me no more, and then after a little while you will see me."

Luke 18:31-33 "Jesus took the Twelve aside and told them, 'We are going up into Jerusalem, and everything that is written by the prophets about the Son of Man will be fulfilled. He will be handed over to the Gentiles. They will mock him, insult him, spit on him, flog him and kill him. On the third day he will rise again.'"
 
Originally posted by thunderbolt
For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son and whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life.



well i wonder if you knew, that according to your bible, jesus had brothers?

know what that means? either God DIDN'T send his only son....or Mary wasn't really a virgin afterall!
 
Originally posted by thunderbolt
One who says there's no god is a blind fool and not very bright. The instincts that an animal has is from GOD, my friend. Man has been given free will or else we would behave like the animals--which would be much better. Man has degraded himself because he has chosen to do that which is wrong(sin). Therein lies your massive social problems that have no answers. If man would live as Jesus has commanded, then there wouldn't be one single problem for man kind.

Think about it.
THUNDERBOLT THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT! (see above from page 3!!!)

just kidding man...it's ok. this thread is interesting and entertaining... :cool:
 
Atheists are also a minority of the human population -- probably because the rest of the world knows something that they have yet to figure out.
 
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