Regarding the Existence or Absence of God

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An all powerful being needs rest? :D
Doesnt sound all powerful to me.

Maybe god should hit the gym little more often?

peace

axeman


Originally posted by thunderbolt
breakin wrote: >I just do not understand how christians on this site can be so literal in their reading of the bible--to go so far as to say the earth was made in 7 days and there were dinosaurs on the ark---<


That shows you haven't really researched the bible. The earth was made in 6 days, God rested on the 7th--sabbath.
 
Originally posted by rs7


Gordon...you really can't get too serious about this subject. Those who believe in their faith won't be dissuaded. Nor will those who do not believe.

To me, it seems just impossible to follow any name brand religion to the letter. As you have pointed out, along with others, there are too many contradictions in the Bible, the Koran, the Torah, what ever source you read or study.

If one were to take the teachings of the Bible totally by the letter, you would be committing a sin if you exceeded the speed limit. Or ran a stop sign. Breaking the laws of man is breaking the law of God. Also, the bible says that essentially God determines who gets to govern. So how can our government and Iraq's government (for example) both be God's will?

Bottom line...there is no resolution to this issue. And that is why our government, in my opinion has a great thing going for it. The Bill of Rights. So we can all have our opinions and beliefs and state them and practice them, and not impose them on each other with force.

:)Rs7

That's the bottom line!
 
Exactly Rs7.

Now go tell all your religious friends to stop
trying to get the christian bible introduced
back into the PUBLIC school system and FORCING
their ONE belief system on all the OTHER religions,
atheists and agnostics in the U.S.A.

peace

axeman



Originally posted by rs7


Bottom line...there is no resolution to this issue. And that is why our government, in my opinion has a great thing going for it. The Bill of Rights. So we can all have our opinions and beliefs and state them and practice them, and not impose them on each other with force.

:)Rs7
 
Originally posted by breakin
I just do not understand how christians on this site can be so literal in their reading of the bible--to go so far as to say the earth was made in 7 days and there were dinosaurs on the ark---but still think it is OK to trade and be involved in the world of finance when it is stated so specificly that you should not take out a loan or charge someone any intrest.

Here is catholic law on the subject----

The 12th canon of the First Council of Carthage (345) and the 36th canon of the Council of Aix (789) have declared it to be reprehensible even for laymen to make money by lending at interest. The canonical laws of the Middle Ages absolutely forbade the practice. This prohibition is contained in the Decree of Gratian, q. 3, C. IV, at the beginning, and c. 4, q. 4, C. IV; and in 1. 5, t. 19 of the Decretals, for example in chapters 2, 5, 7, 9, 10, and 13. These chapters order the profit so obtained to be restored; and Alexander III (c. 4, "Super eo", eodem) declares that he has no power to dispense from the obligation. Chapters 1, 2, and 6, eodem, condemns the strategems to which even clerics resorted to evade the law of the general councils, and the Third of the Lateran (1179) and the Second of Lyons (1274) condemn usurers. In the Council of Vienne (1311) it was declared that if any person obstinately maintained that there was no sin in the practice of demanding interest, he should be punished as a heretic (see c. "Ex gravi", unic. Clem., "De usuris", V, 5).

In plain language---if you had been involved in charging intrest at all you would be punished as a heretic!! (excomunicated, denyed the last rites and therefor been condemed to HELL for eternity!!)

THIS IS WHAT WE DO AS ACTIVE TRADERS! how can it be ok to do it today???

WE ARE THE MONEY CHANGERS-- we basicly do the same thing as the money changers that jesus drove out of the temple with a whip!

how you can trade on monday and go to church on sunday is beyond me! I guess you can justify anything if it feels good

Darkhorse addressed this before. According to him, this was an incorrect interpretation that was enforced as law for a long time.
 
good point rs7

i have respect for christians (or members of any religion) that have a good understanding of their religion and dont just go to church on sunday to compare clothes. (and hear the story of jonah and the whale for the 137th time!)

There is a big difference between christians who have looked at the world as objectively as possible and made the leap of faith to belive in god and follow the teachings of jesus--- I belive that these christians are less likely to try to impose their morals on me as laws, or try and force religion on kids in public schools.

I am all for mutual respect and a country where you can belive what you want to and not be persecuted by whatever group happens to be in the majority at the time.

that does not mean i dont like to argue though:)
 
That's exactly the point.

The bible can be interpreted any way you want,
making it arbitrary and meaningless.

I'm sure people at that time would have listened
to Darkhorse instead of the church.
After all, he is the authority on the bible right? :D


He probably would have been executed for trying
to interpret it differently from the church in those days.
Those wonderful days, when religion was firmly
in power, known as the DARK AGES.

peace

axeman



Originally posted by I Missed Boat


Darkhorse addressed this before. According to him, this was an incorrect interpretation that was enforced as law for a long time.
 
Darkhorse addressed this before. According to him, this was an incorrect interpretation that was enforced as law for a long time.--posted by I_missed the boat


the church is infallable remeber I_Missed???

what would you tell someone who was denied last rites because he did something you do everyday???

you say the law was incorect---I say, who decied that? the law follows scripture very well, why is it incorrect??

I submit that since the jews were exempt from the law at the time, people in the church saw them getting rich and love of money changed the law, and now it is incorrect--or at least does not follow as well with the bible as the old law.
 
Originally posted by axeman
Exactly Rs7.

Now go tell all your religious friends to stop
trying to get the christian bible introduced
back into the PUBLIC school system and FORCING
their ONE belief system on all the OTHER religions,
atheists and agnostics in the U.S.A.
thank GOD for you axeman. ;)

i'm going to support your post with this...

this ENTIRE thread went off track and turned religious on page 3 when THUNDERBOLT had to bring up his religious bs out of nowhere.

Originally posted by thunderbolt
One who says there's no god is a blind fool and not very bright. The instincts that an animal has is from GOD, my friend. Man has been given free will or else we would behave like the animals--which would be much better. Man has degraded himself because he has chosen to do that which is wrong(sin). Therein lies your massive social problems that have no answers. If man would live as Jesus has commanded, then there wouldn't be one single problem for man kind.

Think about it.
 
while we're at it..

TAKE THE RELIGIOUS SH!T OFF THE MONEY AND OUT OF THE PLEDGE TOO! (that judge was right!)

lol bring it on..

p.s. it WILL happen eventually...but imo it'll take generations. we have a bunch of old fogies running this place right now.
 
Originally posted by breakin
Darkhorse addressed this before. According to him, this was an incorrect interpretation that was enforced as law for a long time.--posted by I_missed the boat


the church is infallable remeber I_Missed???

what would you tell someone who was denied last rites because he did something you do everyday???

you say the law was incorect---I say, who decied that? the law follows scripture very well, why is it incorrect??

I submit that since the jews were exempt from the law at the time, people in the church saw them getting rich and love of money changed the law, and now it is incorrect--or at least does not follow as well with the bible as the old law.

Darkhorse was saying that the law was a misinterpretation. According to him, it does NOT faccurately follow scripture. Whether that is true or not, i don't know. But no one has actually addressed his assertion.
 
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