Regarding the Existence or Absence of God

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Originally posted by Gordon Gekko

in the future, penis size will probably be genetically engineered.
Hmmmmmmmmmm,

I don't know if I want anyone "growing" my dick size - what if something goes wrong in the test tube, like they add too many genes or something and I come out with a two footer and have to use a sheath? [probably a tall sock.] Or worse, what happens if I come out with a 5/8" incher? No thanks...I would rather have God be in charge of this... too important to get wrong...

nitro :eek:
 
Originally posted by nitro

Hmmmmmmmmmm,

I don't know if I want anyone "growing" my dick size - what if something goes wrong in the test tube, like they add too many genes or something and I come out with a two footer and have to use a sheath? [probably a tall sock.] Or worse, what happens if I come out with a 5/8" incher? No thanks...I would rather have God be in charge of this... too important to get wrong...

nitro :eek:




THANK YOU GOD!


:D
 
After reading the past 6-7 posts, I now understand who I'm dealing with. You are too caught up in your own sin to see the truth. Once again, self justification. Better hope you're right...
 
Originally posted by stu


I knew that..... I was just testing. Of course I meant to refer to my 6ltr v12 Leer Limousine. :D



Yes rs7 and too much intolerance ..... no argument on this one, religion causes most of it.


It's Intriguing how the proponents of a belief based upon mythological abstracts choose names like:

Long-Way-To-Go
I Missed Boat

I think both those names are ironically apt and this one too

axeman:

Top marks in class today for excellent presentation and first class rationality. Hell's teeth, this is such a good question :



Hey STU, you are a freaking moron!! I can't stand people who come into the middle of a conversation, have no fucking clue what's going on, and then jump in after leaping to stupid conclusions that are actually the opposite of reality. I never took a stand on religion one way or the other. For the most part, I have been critical of religious intolerance that has occurred here and in history. However, that doesn't mean that I'm not going to question the many misinformed people who say that religion has been THE SOLE CAUSE of all oppression and genocide. That is just ignorant, especially since, as I said, many of the worst atrocities occurred where no religion existed.

As far as my views you idiot, I do not believe in the bible literally, I am agnostic on God and the after life. However, there is no more proof against an afterlife as there is against there not being one. It is totally unprovable. And the one thing that all intelligent people should accept is that we are extremely insignificant, finite beings with a very limited ability to understand anything. We don't even know if what we know to be true is reality at all, or rather our senses playing tricks on us. All that we know is that we think and that we exist. Our senses merely interpret the universe through our little mechanisms, which tell us if something is supposedly a certain color, smoothness, etc. It doesn't mean in the actual universe that the object exists, or that it even is what we perceive. And even if our perceptions are accurate to the actual universe (a possibility of which would require as a prerequisite that someone isn't crazy), we have but 5 senses. That and our finite brains limit what we can understand about a universe that may be but one of many universes and many different physics. Ultimately, we can strive to know all we can, but it is ridiculously arrogant to think that we ever will or can fully understand the entire complete reality of the universe(s).
 
Originally posted by Lobster


I'm sorry. I can't help you there. It is religion, not science. What you call evidence would be scientific evidence, and I can't give you that, just like you can't give me any evidence of your theory. We might know what it is like to not have been born yet, but I don't think that is any evidence as of what comes after death: time runs in one direction. I could just as well say: "You know what happened yesterday, because you remember it. Therefore you know what will happen tomorrow."

What it comes down to is that whatever comes after death will be nothing like our life or this world. Now if you implicitly assume that this world is everything, since it is everything of which we have evidence, it would be a correct statement to say: "After death comes nothing." Like I said before, I can't argue with that. Being a mathematician, I would even have to prefer this way of talking about human life. But being a mathematician, I also know that everything you can express in an exact or pedantic way, everything anyone can express at all, including everything for which there ever could be any evidence, is just a bunch of mechanisms. It is up to you whether you want to view yourself as more than that or rather stick to what you can express and prove, thereby taking no risk of being wrong.

I a way, atheism is the only "religion" that cannot be proven wrong in this world. It is very much like putting your life savings into physical cash. You can never lose a penny.


This is a very rational point of view, regardless of whether someone is religious, spiritual or atheist. Just as the irrational religious people on this board (such as Thunderdolt) push a view without ever offering one good piece of discourse, so too a couple of people here who are atheist are being rude and offering nothing to the conversation. Being religious does not make someone inherently irrational or ignorant, just as being atheist does neither. With that in mind, people should listen before they attack someone to see whether the person is offering anything substantive, rather than just offering knee jerk reactions.
 
Originally posted by Gordon Gekko

your religious beliefs make you look like a TOTAL WEIRDO!!!!! i really do feel sorry for you...that was simply pathetic.

The guy was KIDDING!! Just as I said, "knee jerk reaction." It sounds like its your nap time!
 
Originally posted by Gordon Gekko

i said what i said because you were like, "you are obviously not american, you don't watch american tv blah blah blah." you're entire judgement of me was incorrect. then you went on to treat me like a 2 year old when it came to the election of gwb. like i said, i'd bet i probably know more about it than you do.


He was judging the fact that you were so quick to attack him when anyone here, even someone as ignorant and irrational as Thunderdolt, could see that he was kidding and being sarcastic. It would make anyone wonder where the hell you live and whether you know what's going on enough to recognize as obvious a piece of satire as any one could possibly give!!
 
Imissedtheboat,

Boy did you ever. You wrote: >Just as the irrational religious people on this board (such as Thunderdolt) push a view without ever offering one good piece of discourse, so too a couple of people...<

I've given much discourse--just maybe you didn't like how it read. The truth hurts.
 
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