Regarding the Existence or Absence of God

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Originally posted by FasterPussycat


HEY NITRO I AM ON A ROLL AND I HAVE HAD IT WITH THESE MINKEY BRAINS!! HA!
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Yeah,

But the Pussy persona is way too reasonable in an unreasonable way. There was passion in Protrader1 of the highest caliber - a sad one in some ways, but filled with a cold Vulcan type logic that sliced thru the weakness of the opposition reasoning, leaving the oppositions argument dangling in air unsupported...Still, one got the sense that Protrader1 was more compassionate with his brothers, morons or not...

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Yet another rational response by Thunderbolt. NOT!

Even your lame attempt at humour shows that you
dont understand evolution. Pretty damn funny.

Nice way of dodging the debate.
Expected nothing less.

You dont quote your sources.
You dont defend your position.

You have lost this debate in every way imaginable.
That is clear.

axeman


Originally posted by thunderbolt


Axeman, you've given proof that evolution is real. I'm convinced that you indeed came from a baboon's ass. After all, you sound like one, you write like one and you look like one, so you must be a baboon's ass. That's all the proof I need. :eek:
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Originally posted by axeman
Yet another rational response by Thunderbolt. NOT!

Even your lame attempt at humour shows that you
dont understand evolution. Pretty damn funny.

Nice way of dodging the debate.
Expected nothing less.

You dont quote your sources.
You dont defend your position.

You have lost this debate in every way imaginable.
That is clear.

axeman
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amen axeman...you are a true good and decent and wise human being..


I SALUTE YOU! (faster now has his right hand open to his forehead in a salute to this worthy human being)
 
You can point to the exceptions to the rule all you want, but
the fact remains, that over 90% of our best and brightest
scientists are non-believers.

Twist and bend all you like. Religious scientists are in
the extreme minority and have been declining year
after year.

Check the stats in my very early post.
Religion among scientists has steadily declined decade
after decade in polls.

So sorry...your totally wrong on that point.

As for argument from design..... its been shredded
a countless number of times. Why bring this fact up again and again?

Answer the question I posed to Thunderbolt.

Since complexity requires design (in your world),
who designed the creator???????

No one dares answer this because it shows
the HUGE HOLE in your weak argument.

peace

axeman



Originally posted by aphexcoil
The entire debate is pretty futile since there can be no winners or losers. Actually, several hundred pages ago, someone mentioned the book, "The Blind Watchmaker" by Richard Dawkins (for a perspective of how life can exist without a creator). Well, I've read that book and Dawkins book is pretty dry and many details are lacking.

First of all, what right does a Zoologist have in ontology and biology? This guy reaches some conclusions that are far-reaching and outright obsurd.

I'd rather hear it from the brightest minds in the field, like Francis Collings, who is the lead scientist for the Human Genome Project and is open about his faith.

Others, who have shown flaws with neo-Darwinian processes, include David Berlinksi and William Dembeski -- both Princeton educated mathematicians.

Then you have John Polkinghorne retiring from Mathematical Physics to become an Anglican priest.

A lot of people say most scientists are atheists, but actually, if you sample the REALLY smart ones, you'll find a lot of them are open to religion and admit that science can't tackle all of these issues.

As far as I'm concerned, there is too much structure and design around me to dismiss the possibility of a god. I can't prove god's existence, but I most certainly know god cannot be disproven with science and that my own beliefs seem to suit me very well.
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Pussy,

I have to admit, I was wrong. I was driving to Mcdonalds to pick up some chicken Mcnuggets when it occured to me that the building just erected itself from no where. It then occured to me that I was driving this car that somehow just managed to put itself together, evolving after many decades from being just a 15 mph black box.

Then, as I was sitting in the drive-thru waiting for the car in front of me to finish her order, a profound moment washed over the core of my being. I suddenly realized that nothing is ever created and that evolution simply explains everything. Regardless of the fact that the ingredients for evolution had to be present from somewhere, it slowly sank in that my attempt to justify the presense of a god was simply pointless.

As I pulled up to the speaker, I realized it was my turn to order. The young teenage guy asked in a curious but bored tone, "Welcome to Mcdonalds, can I take your order?" I then felt this urge to scream, "THERE IS NO GOD!" There was a pause as I heard some murmuring between the teenage late shift crew, and then he came back and said, "I'm sorry sir, could you repeat your order?"

I then screamed, "GOD!!! DAMN YOU! THERE IS NO GOD!! YOU'RE ALL JUST MONKEYS WITH WALKIE TALKIES STRAPPED TO YOUR ASSES!" At this point, there was another pause (longer) and then I heard, "Please hold, sir." So I waited and then heard a female come on and she said, "This is the shift-manager, can I help you sir?" Well, obviously I wanted her to know this profound truth that Fasterpussycat has bestowed upon us, so I said in a loud yet confident voice, "PUT GOD ON!" Well, at this point she asked me to drive to the window because she was having trouble understanding me.

I pulled up to the window and she looked at me and said, "You're aphexcoil from EliteTrader, right? I read your shit all the time! You rule! Tell Pussycat to go fuck himself!"

See? Even Mcdonalds knows ...
 
Ok Fast,

What is the question? Give it to me in one sentence. What is this question you think everyone is so afraid to answer?

Bring it.
 
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