Regarding the Existence or Absence of God

[daniel_m]

Originally posted by thunderbolt
I know you all feel that I'm intolerant,

Goldenarm, I can't believe you are actually encouraging the kind of behavior Dunderbolt is engaging in! You are basically using the tired old Pascal's wager which has absolutely been shot to pieces.

Guys, thanks for allowing me the honor of positng the 1000th reply in this thread!

 

[thunderbolt]

I see 756.

 

[I Missed Boat]

Originally posted by stu

Exodus. 34:6 God is abundant in goodness....
Ps. 145:7 "his goodness is great "
Ps. 145:9..."and he is good to all "

Wait though incontrovertible PROOF that you should beleive in capital punishment....


Numbers Chapter 31:
And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites... (vss. 1-2)

Moses and the children of Israel obey:

And they warred against the Midianites, as the Lord commanded Moses; and they slew all the males. (vs. 7)

The slaying continues in verse 8. Then in verse 9, the children of Israel take captive all the Midianite women and children, confiscating as well "the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods."

Eventually, the captives are brought before Moses, who condemns to death all the male children and all the unvirginal women:

Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. (vs. 17)

Moses then encourages his men to use the female children for (presumably) sexual pleasure:

But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. (vs. 18)

In these "PROOFS" God condones sanctions and encourages murder, rape and child abuse. Do you like that kind of "PROOF "?? You want to listen to that type of rubbish?

There's PROOF that God is not so abundant in goodness

You could hurl Bible passages around all day and for every one you put up there is one that contradicts it. That is NOT proof that is garbage

Stu, technically this doesn't prove that God (if there is a God) is not abundant in goodness. It might prove that the BIBLICAL God is not abundant in goodness, however.

 

[I Missed Boat]

Originally posted by stu
I get no pleasure at all from displaying how ridiculous and stupid Bible text can be. All Religions and their "Bibles" do nothing but hijack the words and phrases of Goodness Kindness Love Peace which belong to humanity itself, not to a gang of jumped up self appointed self important god creators and their followers.

Wow, you have a very optimistic view of humanity. Wish I did!

 

[daniel_m]

Originally posted by thunderbolt
I know you all feel that I'm intolerant,

let me post that again..since i was rudely censored! (point taken babak)

it's not that we, or, in particular, I think you're "intolerant". You are just seemingly incapable of grasping the simplest logical arguments in the world. In fact, I can only imagine you ignore them because they rattle you.

Think about it,...what would it really cost you to suspend your unwaivering faith for just a moment, and REALLY CONSIDER what the other side is saying? what would it cost you? surely your god wouldn't forsake you just for such a minor digression? think about it..

 

[I Missed Boat]

Originally posted by FasterPussycat
rs7, why did you just attack me on another thread? are you mad about that footbal thang? sorry, i thot 'bout it but i'm too busy to add more to my plate right now, besides i'm not a big sports fan so for me to participate i'd have to do lots of catching up.

peace bro.

I'm in 3 fantasy leagues. WHERE IS THIS LEAGUE???

 

[daniel_m]

Originally posted by I Missed Boat


Wow, you have a very optimistic view of humanity. Wish I did!

that probably explains why you cling to the hope that maybe, just maybe, there's a god out there that will make everything alright one day, right 'Boat?

 

[I Missed Boat]

Originally posted by axeman
Religion is all bunk.
-- Thomas Edison

Christianity is the most ridiculous, the most absurd and bloody religion that has ever infected the world.
-- Voltaire [François Marie Arouet]

"DON'T TALK SMACK ABOUT MY FAN CLUB, LEST I STICK A THUNDERBOLT UP YOUR ASS (and you know he'll talk your head...er ass off)!!!!" -GOD

 

[I Missed Boat]

Originally posted by thunderbolt

Let me make myself clear since everybody will flip out over that statement. We were all created by God, but only those who accept and obey are his children. You have a choose.

Several mistakes later, I am still asking myself....is this the guy who was correcting MY spelling error? ("you have a choose"-different word, different spelling, as Thunderstruck would say)

 

[I Missed Boat]

Originally posted by daniel_m


Goldenarm, I can't believe you are actually encouraging the kind of behavior Dunderbolt is engaging in! You are basically using the tired old Pascal's wager which has absolutely been shot to pieces.

Guys, thanks for allowing me the honor of positng the 1000th reply in this thread!

The criticisms of Pascal's wager only apply if Thunderstruck is not a true believer (he most likely is), is wrong (who knows), and if he is not worshipping the perfect denomination of the true religion (if there is a correct religion). Who knows, maybe he is one of a handful of people on this entire earth who will go to heaven. Still, if this guy is going to heaven, I'd rather go to hell!!! At least there he won't be boring the, pardon the pun, hell out of me preaching for eternity!