Record Low 30 Year Mortgage Rates!!! This is getting to be a joke.

Quote from EMRGLOBAL:

"... Of course, odds are, the US will have a sweeping Change in NOV...which will set the country on a course away from falling.


We can all be hopeful, but doubtful the new wave will have the political cojones to initiate the changes we really need.
 
Quote from EMRGLOBAL:

Of course, odds are, the US will have a sweeping Change in NOV...which will set the country on a course away from falling.

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Change what? Social Security & Medicare? Public employees pensions & benefits?

Why haven't they (rep's and dem's) come up with solutions already...They could start out by suggesting a 10-20% pay and benefit cut for all of congress...

Tea Party politicians? Maybe they're the answer...But let's see what the DO, not what the SAY (if they're elected)...(Though stranger things have happened ;)

Another part of the discussion is lack of ammo...err...$$$...Last I looked the government was deep in the red...

If we don't get a real growth in the GDP, things will most likely get worse before getting better...
 
Quote from slapshot:

This is exactly right. Take it from a person inside the mortgage industry (me).

Why the housing market will have a very difficult time recovering:

1) Before the banks got stupid and started giving 80/20 combo, zero down loans to people with 620 credit scores on Stated Income/Stated Assets, the Jumbo/Stated (verified assets) market was THE best performing portfolio with the lowest default rate of all for decades, even better than pure Full Doc.

This has always been the loan needed for high net worth, business-owning borrowers with complex taxes because it is tough to decipher their returns - but you could believe they made $10k or $20k per month if they Stated it because you could verify their $100k or $200k in cash assets. They would always put at least 10% down if not more on a $500k house - $50k+ is a lot of skin in the game.

And make no mistake, these are the buyers that support a housing market, not people flipping $80k or $120k houses over and over like we have now. We are selling the same house 3 times to equal the same revenue that used to flow through the mortgage finance pipeline. This is why "affordable housing" initiatives are market killers (the only thing that this Congress/President have tried to do to stimulate housing)

These are the high-end people that are almost completely frozen out of the housing market now. I have had several literal millionaire clients over the last 2 years that can't get a mortgage, but some loser with no money and a 3 month job's paystub can get a cheap FHA loan.

This is the main reason why housing prices continues to dive - because there is simply no one that can get a Jumbo Full Doc loan. People who can do Full Doc with a paystub and W-2's are few and far between and there are only so many rich cash buyers/investors.

If no one can get a Jumbo loan, then every house over the Conforming Full Doc limit of $417k is doomed to drop in value. And FHA loans only go to about $262,500 in most areas.

Congress, in their stupidity, as part of the Financial Responsibility Act, has now etched in concrete that all mortgages from now on must be in the tiny Full Doc box. They have doomed the housing finance system indefinitly.

You cannot lift a housing market (or any market) from the bottom up. The market is too heavy to lift that way. It has to be a stronger top of the price range pulling up the bottom. A rising tide lifts all boats. The lower end of the economic caste does not a healthy market make.

And that is what left-wing dumbfucks out there in the world don't understand. Why every giveaway and entitlement to the lower classes only serves to drag down the prosperous and does not creat anything but dependency and less future opportunity for the lower income folks.


Very good post. Thanks for sharing.
 
Quote from misterno:

Interesting, never thought of that

So howcome we don't see a higher depreciation in prices of luxury homes priced over $417K?

How do you explain that?

Uhmmm, many states have 50% or higher drops in these prices...
 
Quote from shfly:

"... Another part of the discussion is lack of ammo...err...$$$...Last I looked the government was deep in the red...

If we don't get a real growth in the GDP, things will most likely get worse before getting better...

If you understand the problem (obviously the Odumba Administration and Congress do not), you'll recognize the ABSOLUTE NECESSITY ofto revamping the tax code and our policies on government spending, jobs, and social support. Other countries which have gone bust and recovered have done so by SLASHING TAX RATES.. SLASHING GOVERNMENT EXPENDITURES AND INVIGORATING ENTREPRENEURSHIP in order to foster employment. (Jackass Odumba is just a power-hungry TURD... trying to "take us in the wrong direction" for his own delusions of power.) I doubt our leadership has the wisdom and balls to "do the right thing" until it's forced upon us by a catastrophic collapse. :mad:
 
Hearing you discuss Texas makes me want to move back. My home town is in Texas - Fort Worth. Ever been there?

Sooo many billionaires, centi-millionares, and deca-millionares in that town. Must be one of the richest small cities, if not the richest, in the USA.
 
Plenty of stability in Texas. Of course it did slow down a bit.

This is a buyers market. The greatest time ever in more than a Generation to aquire Hard Assets as in Buildings, commerical property and Rental Homes.

The country is for sale folks. Those sitting on cash are crazy for not putting it to work in the right areas.
 
Quote from Scataphagos:

But will you be lov'n your present purchases when prices bottom out?? Some are predicting the 10-year at 1%. What will that do to prices on the RE you recently dived-in upon?

um what?

also, to EMR: um, what?
 
Ya. it's true that the property market is still slow, but it’s improving every month. Thus, while it’s a good time to do any of these transactions except selling, the sooner you’re able to pull the trigger.
 
I don't see it as a "good time to buy", Real Estate is still overvalued. Historically median home values have been roughly 2.5X median household income. According to a recent news report Median household income in the U.S. is 45,500 dollars. If we valued Real Estate at its historical pricing the median home value should be roughly 114,000 dollars.

Looking at the Nashville market (my area) median home values are at 158,000 dollars. Median household income is roughly 47,000 dollars. The median home value SHOULD be 117,500.

Yes, the record low interest rates have distorted the pricing because people buy the payment. Jump in now and what happens when rates go back up? Good luck selling your home for what you have in it.
 
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