RealEstate - THIS WILL BLOW YOUR MIND

Quote from tneub:

I have been speculating in the Foreclosure market here in New Jersey...Right along the North-East Corridor....I have purchased 2 homes this month....

First Home was purchased by owner in 2004 for 269,000 and I purchased it from him for 275,000 on a bank short sale....the guy actually owed 279,000 on it after 3.5 years of mortgage payments....the bank ate it on that one....ceilings fallin' in...really outdated interior....and I'll have to dump 30k into a gut renovation....adding extra bath...and GC'ing the job....my cost basis will be about 310,000 when I'm done...the neighborhood is great....nicest around in a working class neigborhood....and it will show like new construction when i'm done...similiar home up the road....i mean like 6-7 houses sold for 362,900.....on the low end I'm looking to net 40k....i put down...12k....put in 30k...the only thing i have to account for is holding period....but....IM A SALESMAN....and those laurels i must rest on....my product is good...only two homes in neighborhood for sale....in the 350-399 range....all used and abused....bottom line....i bought at a good price...and will create a product from an exsisting home....that is more or less new contruction....and bringing it back to compete against tattered "used homes....these homes are selling....not that fast but they are...I have my real estate license....and will pay virtually no fees which adds to the bottom line....I'm aiming to do three projects a year starting out....I have a capital base of 300k....to use for these projects...and will not close on the next project until i have a sales contract in my hand....

in fact...I know a home builder....and he is complaining about all of the new construction that he is holding....about 10 million right now....he's not that big....but his advice to me....buy beaten up homes....and put them on the market...after you add value to them.........if I were to hire a GC for the job....I would pay 40-50k more than I am paying....essentially I'm netting this by doing the work myself....he made all of his money with old worn down houses...and got the idea to do new construction....he says after he gets rid of these homes....he's going back to existing...where he made his millions to start.....I'm consulting with him....and it has been a great help...for sourcing materials...dealing with permiting...etc.....

I'm a trader....and they say...buy when their is blood in the streets...and now...there is blood....as New Yorkers cash out and move jersey side....I'm right near the train...and only a couple of stops from Penn Station....about 40 minutes...no different than guys riding the train in from Brooklyn...the only thing...you get more house for your money on the jersey side....I just sold a flat in Jersey City...954 sq ft....for...drum roll please.....457k....and I sold it in less than 1 month.....location is the key...and purchase price is the key.....adding value at wholesale prices is also key...I don't have to pay union wages to get my job done....in fact because I'm the homeowner I can do all of the work myself....without having to have a plumbers license.....or electrical license.....this is how I will be able to compete....

Now the strippers in LV they profiled on CNBC aren't going to run an all spanish crew....lay tile....put up sheetrock....and the Pulte's and Tol Brothers, and Hortons, are faced with rising labor and material costs in a declining market.....but as with anything....there is room in any market for those willing to be shrewd, cunning, smart, and penny pinching.....now 120k per year is what I project based on selling and repairing 3 homes per year....and if I can do that for 5-6 years running....and catch the market when it turns....I believe I will do alright....I'm also single...and have very low monthly living costs....i expect to put away 80k per year into long-term investments....

I'm a contrarian at heart.....and although housing may be a falling knife....I'm starting to buy it.....when I tell people I'm flipping houses...they look at me like I'm an idiot...."haven't you read the paper".....of course I have.....and all of the fear has not driven me out...but has driven me into it....I'm selective...and concentrating on a particular market....quite frankly when I'm done with this first project...which i'm in the process of documenting by video...I will be looking to create a business model...and attract outside capital.....and when potential investors see what this kid is doing in a super shitty market....I believe I can increase my capital base for projects 10 fold.....my first committed investor is the new home builder who is amazed that I will pull a 40k profit from a home selling at 350k with a 50k cash outlay in this market...when he may make 40k on carrying a 750k home he may sell for 800k....years ago...he would have made 125k on it....now hardly anything....

more foreclosures...mean that I will be able to cherry pick...as buyers are sparse....but again...IM A SALESMAN....and a TRADER....I have always been able to sell/trade a quality product regardless of the market conditions....and for this I am blessed...
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T-neub;
Another advantage you are blessed with;
most owner-agents dont do thier own contracting/home improvement.

And most contractors don't do their own real estate sales or are REALTORS, some are:cool:
 
I am moving homes priced at 600 to 1million like they are Crack in South Texas.

The market has slowed a bit, homes are sitting more than 90 days. However, this Bull market in Land and Homes looks to run for another few years in this region.

Just like in Financial Markets, you gota play where the game is still on. Most RE agents/brokers wil be out of business by years end in the East and West Coast.
 
To tneub

I just kind of stumbled on to this thread and must tell you that if you keep the ambition and attitude that you have, you will be very successful.

I'm a small time options trader and just recently took an interest in real estate when a house came on the market in my neighborhood when the owner passed away. I was at Amazon ordering a book for a girlfriend and for the hell of it, I looked in the real estate book section and saw" FLIP How To Find, Fix, and Sell Houses For A Profit"...I haven't opened it yet but want to ask you if you read it?

Can you recommend any books or websites for anyone interested in real estate investing ( fixing up and re-selling) and don't know where to start..like me?

Thanks and best of luck to you..
 
^^if it looks like these posts, I'd shudder to be the editor..:p :D

j/k, great postings and you hit on the main keys of having a good working relationship, and pricing things lower then the rest...which in the end sells faster and makes more because it's more of a constant stream (I believe in the same philosophies big time).
 
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T-neub;
Another advantage you are blessed with;
most owner-agents dont do thier own contracting/home improvement.

And most contractors don't do their own real estate sales or are REALTORS, some are:cool:
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Your right about that....in fact i spent some time with that homebuilder that I spoke about in a previous post....and I saw how he did it....we talked numbers...and u know what....those realtor fees were eating his lunch....getting your real estate license is as easy as the series 7.....easier...you don't need sponsership..

i want everything wholesale....building materials....advertising costs....attorney fees...whatever....all wholesale....and your right....most contractors are contractors...and most real estate agents remain agents.....being versitile is important.....who better to get excited and the sell the property.....the GUY who has an invested interest.....I just went to look at my builder friend's finished project.....the thing is sitting...not showing etc....he has a whack realtor.....i just turned 30...the guy is 40....and him and the computer don't get along....there are so many ways to drive traffic to your home it's wild.....not just the MLS and a sign out front....i just don't get it....one thing is that the realtor he works with husband's on the zoning board.....and he doesn't want to drop the listing with her.....funny thing is that she sold him a Knock down.....made 20k....and whe she sells the 800k home....will make a grip again....he figures that she will make about as much as he does.....that would send me through the roof.....but this guy has millions....and isn't as penny pinching as me....and it's a shame....no matter what your worth....being shrewd is wise
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And they say a RE sign in yard is responsible for about 10% of sales;
sounds about right.

Did a home improvement contract one time;
guy bought a FSBO, sign was laying down almost [not quite] covered by weeds, barely visible for keen eyes:cool: :cool:
 
A bit over a year ago I posted there were 146 foreclosures in this san diego area.

There are now 358 bank owned propertes :eek:

A 245% increase in just over a year in one of the strongest up and coming san diego communities (great schools)

The NAR keeps saying the bottom is in. HAHAHAHAHHAA idiots.
 
San Diego county as a whole is up 257% in foreclosures vs this time last year, and we still have about 20 months of upcoming ARM adjustments to work through.

Its just anecdotal, but a really cool 12 unit complex around the corner from me in Pacific Beach has 5 of the units for sale. This is in one of the healthiest RE neighborhoods around as well. San Diego is sooo screwed. I think it is definitely on the far spectrum of how bad it is in general however. Most markets in the US are doing a lot better (relatively speaking of course).
 
Here is a pic of bank owned properties in the more affordable Mira Mesa area of san diego.

The realtytrac map will not plot the homes if there are more than 150 on the screen at one time.

I had a difficult time finding a spot on the map that had less than 150 homes on it that are bank owned :eek:

This is a disaster. We have almost 2 more years of arm resets and the most insane bank owned inventory to burn through anyone could ever imagine.
 

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