School systems are not reporting fatality numbers -- hence the lack of data.
You can go look at the CDC COVID weekly data for a general idea...
CDC COVID Weekly data
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html
Re-opening Schools in the era of COVID
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School systems are not reporting fatality numbers -- hence the lack of data.
You can go look at the CDC COVID weekly data for a general idea...
CDC COVID Weekly data
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html
They're probably not reporting deaths because....*drum roll*....kids don't really die from COVID.
They probably don't report on fatalities of teachers because they have no idea how the teachers who caught COVID got it. Whether from school, or from Walmart or the grocery store or whatever, and therefore they have no idea. So no one can really say whether schools are the cause of any higher mortality than anything else these people do in their lives.
And it certainly ISNT causing deaths to children...essentially at all. Anywhere.
So lets spread fear porn to scare people from going to school. Very smart.
School systems are not reporting deaths and hospitalizations in the U.S. because they do not collect that data due to medical privacy rules.
Of course, you are back to pushing the "prove they caught it at school nonsense" as your narrative.
Of course I'm pushing back like that. If you're going to tell us that schools are the place where people have a much higher risk of dying, and that is your justification for shutting down schools and keeping kids at home then you need to prove it is more dangerous. You can't just say "trust us, it's dangerous".
At least, not unless all you're trying to do is scare people (like you are).
Any sane individual with an IQ over 80 would ask to see proof if you were telling that individual you were going to restrict their way of life because something is dangerous, and not obviously so.
You can explain your theories to the families of the many dead school staff members. See what type of response you get from them.
How many dead school staff members are there? You know, that got the virus from school and died because of it?
The ones you're referring to.
Yeah.... this is just where you push your nonsense talking point of "prove them go it at school". Well -- you go prove they did not get it at school. Because the rest of the staff members believe the dead staff members caught the virus at school -- and they are quite rightfully fearful -- since most schools opened up for students in the U.S. are not even taking minimal safety precautions and are far from safe.
If you want a proper model of how to open up schools safely in the era of COVID then go take a look at what schools in Europe did for the entire fall semester. Of course, one of their primary safety criteria is that local community spread of COVID must be low for schools to stay open. As soon as local community spread rose about a 5% positive test rate or 0.8 R rate then schools shut down & went remote.
Show me that the "rest of the staff members believe the dead staff members caught the virus at school"? I'm not talking about spamming articles about particular teachers who are scared from a "news" organization designed to push a fear narrative.
You have no data. To say I should prove they didn't get it at school, I can't. You can't and I can't. The only difference is you are telling me I can't do something. So if you say I can't do something because it is too dangerous, then you have to prove the danger. That's how the world works, ol' chum. Sorry for that logic and all that stuff.
I don't care about your "proper" models on anything. You've shown yourself on these forums to be a mouthpiece for the fear narrative. you spam articles, lack critical thinking and perform your duties as Party Propaganda Officer very well. The problem is that some of us actually require data to make choices. Now, if you only had the data, you might have a case.
My son has been going to school since August. Every day. The school has never been shut. No one seems to have died (no one we are aware of) and while people have gotten sick, they have recovered. I have a working model of my thesis right in front of me. Many other schools in the area just like it.
I have to run for the day - headed out to class. I'll be back online tomorrow though to expose more of your stupidity. See ya then.
I am not really focused on the mortality rates.
My comments are in general and to no one in particular.
My friends in their 40s both got it and spent a month needing inhalers as they were constatly out of breath from covid effects on their breathing and were knocked out for almost a month. They were really knocked out on their asses though no hospitilaztion needed. They have no risk factors.
My neighbors are in their late 60s and hubby was in hospital for 9 days and wife took 3 weeks before she could really go up and down stairs.
What if mortality rates are 1% but when you get it kicks your ass. I had dengue for 3 weeks and it took me 6 weeks to fully recover (best and worst diet ever). Dengue is not really fatal but it still kicks your ass hard. Prevention is about repellant and good environmental cleanliness but ti sometimes still sneaks through (I was in tropical country). One customer had 60% of staff out from chikunguya in Carribbean.
It is not about COVID mortality rates to take safety measures. Peolpe who get it and even those that dont need hospitalization are seriously affected for a few weeks. If the right precautions are not in place at a school, you might not kill a lot of people (1 is too many) but you could have teachers out for weeks.
I wish people would stop downplaying COVID simply based on risk factors and mortality rates. I had two friends lose 40 year old relatives with no risk factors and young friends who got knocked out for 3-4 weeks (in addition to those I mentioned above). Dont hole up in your basement but dont treat it as the flu.
I wear the mask, clean surfaces, allowed my son to play in his HS basketball but with many precautions, stay away from large groups etc... Teachers should expect the same and not sure every school system has the resources to follow CDC guidelines. This is the only role federal government can play is to make equipment and tools avaialble at no cost.
That's great. If you're that afraid, you should stay home. You should have your kids stay home. After all, its scary out there.
But what you don't get to do is tell me I should stay home and have MY kids stay home and have MY kids suffer all the issues children are suffering in anxiety and depression and failing grades, etc. You don't get to tell me I have to do that unless you can show me that there is a mortal danger to sending my kids to school.
And you can't show this because the data doesn't suggest it is true. Post all the anecdotal stories you like about people you know, means nothing to me. I can give you an anecdotal story saying things are fine for every single one you can give me telling me that things are bad.
So quarantine to your heart's content. But don't try to convince me to do so unless there is a risk that outweighs the risk of me keeping my kid home from learning properly. From being social. From playing sports. From all the things necessary for my child to develop into a normal human being.
Thanks.