Rand Paul on racism in business...

[phenomena]

Yep, it`s a good thing the republicans in those states defeated segregation and supported integration, and fought the democrats tooth and nail on it, who were trying to keep it. The democrats were the racists, not republicans. Ahh well, some things never change. LOL!!!

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Am I surprised that a white guy with racist views is winning in Kentucky?

Not at all...

Does the state of Kentucky have a racist history?

Ask those who know the history of Adolph Rupp....

Shit, southern states wanted the right to own slaves, to treat them as personal property...and had to be beaten down to finally surrender...but they never surrendered in their hearts.

 

[OPTIONAL777]

"The democrats were the racists, not republicans."

The Dixiecrats were the racists, and now they are red state republicans...

Quote from phenomena:

Yep, it`s a good thing the republicans in those states defeated segregation and supported integration, and fought the democrats tooth and nail on it, who were trying to keep it. The democrats were the racists, not republicans. Ahh well, some things never change. LOL!!!

 

[phenomena]

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Quote from bigarrow:

What kind of business do you own?

 

[Rearden Metal]

Quote from Ghost of Cutten:

Of course private businesses should be allowed to be racist. A private business is a private entity not a public one, it is up to the owners to do what they want as long as they don't infringe someone's rights, just like it is up to a homeowner who to let in their home, or a person to choose their friends. No one has an intrinsic right to be served by a private business.

Most countries around the world allow race discrimination amongst businesses - Russia, Japan, Dubai etc all have clubs that cater to specific ethnicities for example. I don't feel discriminated against because I can't go into Mecca or a Phillipino nightclub in Dubai or a Japanese-only brothel. If a neo-nazi or a black panther doesn't want me in his home or private members club, how on earth do I have any moral right to force entry?

Anyone saying otherwise is saying that people have no right of ownership over their own property, and that it is legitimate to assault people with armed violence in order to force them to become slaves to complete strangers. Violently enforced slavery is far worse than non-violent racism.

If individuals are not legally entitled to sell to who they want, then it is a small step until individuals are not legally entitled to be friends with or have sex with who they want. Someone who wants to outlaw business race-discrimination to customers has a very hard time explaining why they would not also outlaw only marrying or having sex with or being friends with people of your own race, or avoiding those things with one or more races.

It's important to distinguish between things that are unpleasant, such as being rude to people, being an asshole, being a racist, mocking fat people etc, and things that are actually crimes. Choosing who to do work for, befriend, or have sex with on the basis of arbitrary criteria such as race, looks, intelligence or other things they have no control over is discriminatory but it is not criminal.

Rand Paul needs to hire you to write for him. His intent was the same as yours, but you've phrased it so much better.

Racism is bad. Government forcing private property owners at gunpoint not to discriminate is worse. Obesity is bad. Government forcing people at gunpoint not to eat fattening foods is worse. Alcoholism is bad. Alcohol prohibition was worse. Etc, etc...

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Ron and Rand are their followers are on the wrong side of the law...

The Federal Civil Rights Act guarantees all people the right to "full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin."

The key is a public place, not a private place. Sure you may own it, but if your business is open to the public...that means it is a public place.

You have a business that caters to the public?

Go ahead and willingly practice racism...see how it goes.

 

[Mercor]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Ron and Rand are their followers are on the wrong side of the law...

The Federal Civil Rights Act guarantees all people the right to "full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin."

The key is a public place, not a private place. Sure you may own it, but if your business is open to the public...that means it is a public place.

You have a business that caters to the public?

Go ahead and willingly practice racism...see how it goes.

This is the exact law that the Paul's feel are infringing on individual rights.
It has been clearly stated here the Paul philosophy behind this. No reason for you to turn this into a petty and circular argument that never ends.

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Oh...I understand how they feel and I understand how slave owners felt about the slaves being their property...

It isn't hard to understand how people feel...it is hard to understand how they view themselves as civilized when they treat fellow human beings differently on the basis of race...

Quote from Mercor:

This is the exact law that the Paul's feel are infringing on individual rights.
It has been clearly stated here the Paul philosophy behind this. No reason for you to turn this into a petty and circular argument that never ends.

 

[Mercor]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Oh...I understand how they feel and I understand how slave owners felt about the slaves being their property...

It isn't hard to understand how people feel...it is hard to understand how they view themselves as civilized when they treat fellow human beings differently on the basis of race...

Petty....I warned you , do not get petty......All you can do is jump on the word "feel" to continue this debate....petty, circular, boring...stop.

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Substitute think if it makes you feel any better...

Bottom line is that the Paulie boyz position is on the wrong side of the law...just like the southern states they play their politics in was on the wrong side of the law in the Civil war when the Dixie boyz got beaten down to a "please don't hurt me any more" surrender...

Quote from Mercor:

Petty....I warned you , do not get petty......All you can do is jump on the word "feel" to continue this debate....petty, circular, boring...stop.

 

[phenomena]

Kind of like how your position on pedophilia is on the wrong side of the law?? LOL!!!

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Substitute think if it makes you feel any better...

Bottom line is that the Paulie boyz position is on the wrong side of the law...just like the southern states they play their politics in was on the wrong side of the law in the Civil war when the Dixie boyz got beaten down to a "please don't hurt me any more" surrender...