Quran is Zionist

[Bakinec]

Before I begin, the exile and the return of Judah (including some other tribes who came to be identified as Judeans thru history) was prophesied in the Torah and the Prophets before the Quran, but it's also found in the Quran, but for various reasons, including mis-translations of the Quran into other languages (including English) and not reading the original Arabic version carefully, Muslims have missed this prophecy in the Quran. It's been over 8 years since I discovered and posted this proof, and in the beginning of 2019, after many signs (including 2 disasters as warnings, to be exact) came my way ever since I discovered this evidence in the Quran and posted here, which, given their nature and their evident connection with the Arab-Israeli conflict, could have been only from Elohim, I decided to post this proof on all of the relevant forums and groups so that it can be known all around the world and reach the relevant parties so that Muslims (and Arabs in particular) can stop sinning against Allah, their Holy Book and themselves by cursing Israel and the movement (Zionism) from which it sprang, and both Israelis and Arabs would no longer lose their lives over senseless violence when in reality the in-gathering of the exiled Jews and the birth of Israel should have been celebrated as an evident miracle and promise of God fulfilled, a prophecy promised starting with the Hebrew Bible and repeated in the Quran! The two disasters came about first when I tried to start reading the Quran from the beginning, and then secondly when I tried to start reading the Torah from the beginning - from these 2 disasters, and even then only after almost 2 years after the 2nd disaster, in early 2019 I understood that the Ehyeh, if by trying to read his Holy Books was like me trying to stand and knock on the entrance to Heaven, struck me away from the entrance, letting me know that I have a task to complete (spreading the word of what I found, which I stupidly planned to do later, then procrastinated, at times forgot, then again procrastinated, etcetera, etcetera, on to 8 years later), and I ask the Almighty, and all the parties concerned (myself included), to forgive me for putting this discovery on the back burner for long 8 years instead of spreading the message far and wide as glad tidings and a warning to those who believe, and many of them do not believe except when it fits them and justifies what's in their hearts, and what sad ruin were those before them led to by their stray hearts! Read the book in the original, and read carefully, recite, and meditate on each verse, to see how it applies in your lives now and in history, so that you may be guided!

When I say I discovered this evidence, I mean it not to brag - because though I originally grasped a part of this evidence by Googling whether Israel figured in the Quran and came across verse 17:104 in the Quran, I then completed the proof myself by finding other verses connected to and relevant to 17:104, which I then posted when creating this thread. Then in early 2019 after starting on my current quest, I decided to look at the original Arabic words used in the verses connected with this proof (thanks to the quran.com's word-by-word translation), and found that the verses in the original Arabic ARE EVEN MORE CLEAR regarding this important matter, and have made me realize that most of the English translations, or rather, mis-translations, are either politically motivated or unintentional in their mis-translation. Their error lies in translating the Arabic "l-akhirati" in verse 17:104 as the "Hereafter" or "Afterlife", instead of as the "last/second warning/promise", the latter being the correct translation in light of the earlier verses (17:4-8) which are a logical background for and which, by the straight, literal and plain meaning of the words in them, support the correct, straight, plain meaning of the verse 17:104.

To date, I haven't seen this proof anywhere else on the world wide web, and all the other half-hearted, superficial "proofs" using one verse or another without giving the complete evidence are weak as if trying to make a table on three or even two legs stand, and actually make the matter worse by not providing all the existing parts of the proof (which I found on my own), by leading those who already have hatred in their hearts towards Israel/Jews/Zionism hardened even more so in their enmity and delusional hatred, by not only giving them the illusion that they are right, but also by adding insult to their "injury" by trying to justify what they hate using incomplete proof from their Holy Book, you understand? So when I say I discovered it, what I mean is that you shouldn't go around telling everyone "just Google Quran is Zionist", because what they would find are half-complete attempts which will only make you look as liars (in their eyes) and leave the truth still be concealed - instead, you should point them directly to this thread so that they can read the complete proof with all the evidence I provided.

 

[Bakinec]

Likewise for the Gospels - for the Gospels I will provide evidence at the end of this post, for the Hebrew Bible I do not have proof, but I'd be careful regarding it too, given both the Quran and the Gospels being translated in a way which completely changes the meanings of the original words.

I forgot to post the evidence for the Gospels.

In the Gospels, Jesus is quoted as saying that the "meek will inherit the earth". The word "meek" in English is defined as "quiet, gentle, and easily imposed on; submissive.". BUT IN ORIGINAL GREEK, the term which is translated as "meek" in English - "praus" - means "strength under control/power under discipline".

Proof here:

https://biblehub.com/greek/4239.htm
https://www.pharocattle.com/wp-cont...titudes/The_Beatitudes_Part_3_cont_090708.htm
https://www.google.com/search?client=cus&q=Greek+term+praus

 

[Bakinec]

In the Gospels, Jesus is quoted as saying that the "meek will inherit the earth". The word "meek" in English is defined as "quiet, gentle, and easily imposed on; submissive.". BUT IN ORIGINAL GREEK, the term which is translated as "meek" in English - "praus" - means "strength under control/power under discipline".

I had some more insight into this phrase today, and to explain how I came to it is a whole another topic in itself - it has something to do with when my ancestors were amongst other Israelites covenanting with God at Mount Sinai, saying “na’aseh v’nishma” - “we will do, and (then) we will hear/understand.” So to elaborate on the Gospelic verse for the final time, and to make it easier for Christians to apply in real life practically, the word would be best translated just as "discipline", and it finds support in the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament, which is basically all of the Bible preceding the Gospels (which are called the New Testament, from the phrase "new covenant" mentioned in one of the Hebrew Prophets/Neviim).

So what is the correct meaning of this "praus" word, which was erroneously, if not deliberately, mistranslated as "meek"? Literal meaning is "strength under control", but given the context of the Hebrew Bible, on which Jesus was raised and practiced, it's better to translate as "strong character disciplined/achieved and kept under discpline".

On the one hand, if you are weak (in the moral sense, but physically also, as between the body and mind is a mutual feedback mechanism), you should start practicing the good trait/behavior as preached in the Gospels that you want to instill in yourself and make second nature, better yet, first nature. Mastery of a trait/behavior is achieved only by careful, deliberate practice of that behavior/trait, with all the mental insights that come with it.

On the other hand, if a trait/behavior is already in your nature or you learned it, sometimes people display a good trait/behavior in an arrogant, condescending or contemptuous way. That is not good either; it defeats the purpose of the original trait/behavior, because in the process you commit another wrong - one of arrogance.

I can imagine how many sorry generations of Christians were raised on the common, majority translations of "meeeeeek", instead of its correct meaning of "disciplined", and I wonder how many more mistranslations there are hiding in plain sight. ALL OF THE TRANSLATIONS MISTRANSLATED IT - see here: https://biblehub.com/matthew/5-5.htm

Use biblehub.com to translate each word of the Gospels when reading them, especially the concordance (accessed by clicking on the word) to see where else in the text a word occurs to derive its most accurate meaning, because if there is one such glaring error, most likely there will be more of these "gems" (rather poison/leaven, Jesus did say be wary of the "leaven of the Pharisees and Herodians [a.k.a. powers that be]") of deliberate or innocent mistranslations.

To instill the correct meaning of the word "praus", I'll quote Wikipedia and although it has only one or two sources there to back it up, I've Googled the word and it means precisely what the below quotation says it does:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_5:5

Other writers have pointed out that the Greek word "praus" (πραεῖς) was used to define a horse trained for battle. Wild stallions were brought down from the mountains and broken for riding. Some were used to pull wagons, some were raced, and the best were trained for warfare. They retained their fierce spirit, courage, and power, but were disciplined to respond to the slightest nudge or pressure of the rider’s leg. They could gallop into battle at 35 miles per hour and come to a sliding stop at a word. They were not frightened by arrows, spears, or torches. Then they were said to be meeked.

To be meeked was to be taken from a state of wild rebellion and made completely loyal to, and dependent upon, one’s master. It is also to be taken from an atmosphere of fearfulness and made unflinching in the presence of danger. Some war horses dove from ravines into rivers in pursuit of their quarry. Some charged into the face of exploding cannons as Lord Tennyson expressed in his poem, “The Charge of the Light Brigade.” These stallions became submissive, but certainly not spineless. They embodied power under control, strength with forbearance.

But then again, weakness can also be trained into a strength, with enough repetitions. Even the word Quran means the "recitation". Recitation and then repetition is the mother and father of memory (to remember) and learning (to apply what's learned to life situations).

 

[Cuddles]

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[Bakinec]

H4M,

True. I always had the impression that there are certain people on this forum who are faithful (if not strictly religious), and not one had shown their reaction to the Gospelic mistranslation in the least. Gospels were the first religious text I've read in my life, despite being Judean in descent, and I used this "meek" mistranslation as a moral compass in my life, because I believed, tho I wasn't strictly following it, but those sins I've committed, were indirectly or even directly, the result of my "meekness" in life, which I justified with this mistranslation and other misunderstood verses in the Gospels.

Let us remember what God said thru one of his Prophets, Hosea, in 4:6, in the "Old" Testament (better to call it the Hebrew Bible to be correct in substance and technicality also):

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge;
because you have rejected knowledge,
I reject you from being a priest to me.
And since you have forgotten the law of your God,
I also will forget your children.

&

Job 36:12
But if they do not listen, they perish by the sword
and die without knowledge.


Regarding discipline, the fact that the correct translation of the Greek word "praus" is "disciplined" and not "meek" (the mis-translation which ALL the English-language Bibles follow), from Jesus's "disciplined shall inherit the earth" verse, is apparent in the following Prophets who came prior to Jesus:

Proverbs 5:23
He dies for lack of discipline,
and because of his great folly he is led astray

Proverbs 10:21
The lips of the righteous feed many,
but fools die for lack of sense.

Proverbs 10:17
Whoever heeds discipline shows the way to life, but whoever ignores correction leads others astray.

Shall I go on and on???

Just read everything involving discipline in the Bible here:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job+36:12,Proverbs+5:23,Proverbs+10:21,Hosea+4:6&version=ESV
https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/bible-verses-about-discipline/
https://www.openbible.info/topics/discipline

 

[Bakinec]

Hello to Islamic Board, ShiaChat, and other forums I'm trying to spread this in.
This is a copy and paste of what I'm trying to post in those forums.



This is a complete proof of a prophecy and support of Zionism (the return of the remnant of Israelites back to the Promised Land) in the Quran.

It might look long, but it's not, please read along. Thus far, it seems that I am the only one who discovered this proof down to the original wording in Arabic. If you Google such terms as "Quran is Zionist" or "Zionism in the Quran", you won't find this exact proof other than a forum I posted it in, and half-proofs that can be easily refuted. So do not tell people to Google it, because the results consist of websites relying on only one verse, without quoting the corresponding contextual verses surrounding the key verse, which conclusively prove that no other meaning could be arrived at by this Quranic verse (and contextual verses connected to it) but history as it really unfolded and as we know it.

As you will see below, the majority of the translations of the Quran into English and other languages from its original Old Arabic language in which it was originally written down, DELIBERATELY MIS-TRANSLATE A KEY PROPHETIC PRO-ZIONIST VERSE literally prophesying the return of Israelite diasporas out of all the nations back to their historical, promised land - to hide Quran's clear support and prophecy of Zionism, contrary to Quranic prohibition of and warnings against lying (mis-translating) or twisting God's word out of context. These "translators", most of them "Muslim", have deliberately lied by doing what God condemns many times in the Quran itself – twisting/mistranslating words/verses to say/mean something else from their true meaning/what they really say.

Here is a website with a full copy of Quran translated word-by-word from its original Old Arabic to English, and the webmasters have done a great favor to everyone by providing a concordance of each Quranic word - showing all the other places in the Quran where the same Arabic word is used (which can be accessed by clicking on the word), so that by seeing the same Arabic word within each context/verse in the Quran, the proper meaning can be arrived at!

HERE IS THE PROOF, word by word, in http://corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp? :

Go to the above link. Click on drop down menu, and find chapter 17 and verse 4. Then, in verse 5, notice the key Arabic word "wadu" (promise/warning). Continue to verse 6. Then, in verse 7, notice the TWO Arabic key words "wadu" (promise/warning) and "l-akhirati" (the last [second] of the promises/warnings). Read verse 8. Now, jump to verse 104, where God used the same Arabic words - "l-akhirati" and "wadu" - and also the Arabic word "lafifan" (click on it, and you will see the meanings of "entwined [of multiple parts]/thick foliage/wound around each other"), to say the Israelites (of which Jews, which historically also included some other tribes [Benjamin, Simon, Levi at the least], are the remaining, identifiable tribe today) will be brought back to the Promised Land (as they were in verse 6, true to history, from Babylonian Captivity), after the last ("l-akhirati") promise/warning ("wadu") comes to pass, with the LAST in-gathering being from out of multiple nations (verse 104 - "lafifan": entwined of/from multiple peoples/nations) in which they were living in their exile from the Promised Land. So, the last promise/warning lasted for almost 1900 years (Second Temple was destroyed in 70 AD by Romans).

The Quranic prophecy refers to the "Children of Israel", but given the context of the Quranic verses, refers to the Southern Kingdom (Tribes of Judah and Benjamin wholly, and containing partly Levites and Simonites), and not to the Northern Kingdom (a.k.a. 10 Lost Tribes), who were exiled by Assyria and were lost to history before the destruction of the First Temple in Jerusalem, assimilating to various populations of the Middle East and beyond, and losing their distinct identity as Israelites. It was a Temple and capital (Jerusalem) which they never recognized, and then fell into idol worship, for which God caused them to be exiled and lose their self-identity as Israelites, except a few of them left in place (Samaritans)

This is proved in the Quran by its description of the "first warning" as being the destruction of the First Temple and the first exile and captivity (Babylonian Captivity), followed by the remaining tribes’ (Judah, Benjamin, Levites and Simonites) return to their land, and then "the second warning" as being the destruction of the Second Temple by Rome and their last and final exile – lasting almost 1900 years – followed by a prophecy in Sura 17:104 that, "when the second warning comes to pass (i.e. is over/behind them/has passed)", God will cause them to be brought back to their land out of all the countries where their exile took them (verbatim and literally - "INTERTWINED multitude/out of multitude of nations").

We can also corroborate the above proof with:

1) History, which shows the return of the remnant of Israelites (called Jews, but includes other assimilated tribes) as a "crowd/group - made/entwined - out of multiple parts/out of multiple nations" back to the Promised Land, and which shows Israel withstanding and successfully defending itself against a multitude of Arabic nations who declared war on it and tried to destroy it multiple times in its short history, beginning with its birth, which could only be by the decree of God;

2) Logic. Looking at the other verses and then at 17:104, it could only make sense if it was prophesying the future return of the remnant of Israelites back to Israel.

3) Confirmation in the Bible. The Bible prophesies a future return of the remnant of Israelites back to the Holy Land. Read Deuteronomy 4:27, 28:64, 28:36; Leviticus 26:33; Jeremiah 16:13; Amos 9:9; and Quran 2:97, 3:3, 4:47, 6:92, 37:37, and many other verses like it throughout it.

If anyone says "Israel was established by the hands of people, not God.", tell them that God acts thru people. Proof is that Judea was exiled 1900 years ago ALSO by the hands of people - the Romans - and if it wouldn't have been the will of God, it would not have happened. and decrees success in all matters, including when Israel successfully defended itself against many Arab nations.

Interestingly, the same site above which provides word-by-word translation, also provides the same MISTRANSLATIONS for those who find word-by-word translation tedious, including the front page translation it provides at www.quran.com, and the 7 popular English translations at http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp (go to "English translation" on the left). You can also access another popular Islamic website at https://www.islamawakened.com/index.php/qur-an and see literally dozens of MISTRANSLATIONS -translations provided, the majority of which mis-translate the verse 17:104 in the Quran to say "Hereafter" or "Afterlife" or "World to come" (Judgement Day), while given the context and wording in previous verses, it should be translated as "last/final of the warnings".

Any questions, please ask. Any disputations, please do it! If you can successfully disprove the proof above, then please do it, then I won't be full of regret THAT THE TRUTH IS SUFFERING AND BAD CONSEQUENCES ARISE BECAUSE OF THAT, and turn my attention to other areas in my life!


PLEASE SHARE THIS WITH AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. PLEASE SHARE IT ON ALL YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS - FACEBOOK, ETC.

God sent me many signs and punished me multiple times for not spreading this ever since I deduced this proof in 2011 even based on faulty translations, posting it on a non-religious forum, and going my own way, until in January 2019 I realized that what's happening to me is like what happened to the Prophet Jonah. Though I didn't spread it in 2011, I was elated at myself because finally, here's a solution to the Muslim conflict over Israel, affecting all nations and many spheres, in many ways - morally and physically, and I'm the one who found it. So I went away, and became foolish, and ruined a lot in my life, and I thank God for being merciful! I realized that God is signaling me twice in 2011, but didn't take it as seriously, and only in January 3-7 of 2019, it hit me, and even then, instead of rushing to spread this, I was busy thinking how to do it, and thought everything through so much that at the end I was too confident and became arrogant, and tried half-way to spread this, being thwarted by moderators - though one good thing I did (and not due to overthinking), I refined the proof to an indisputable level, based on original Arabic, uncovering the ignorance and maybe even intentional ill will of the translators into English and Russian, and probably the other language translations of the Quran too. If you think me crazy regarding signs from God, first that means you're not a believer, secondly, just read the proof below, that's all that matters, and then see if you still think that! You will be affected emotionally strongly at the end, once you realize the truth and the implications and the reasons for a lot of wrongdoing in your ummahs and in the whole world! A heart covered/closed/hardened towards one issue, especially a prophecy of your own Holy Book, means your eye was not clear at other issues too, and your whole life you either feel "just accept things the way they are", or tired at exerting so much effort at keeping things from not falling down! I was tasered to the back of my head in 2017 (and had jaw broken), causing me a stroke and resulting condition called aphasia, from which I'm still recovering, so forgive me if my writing is not clear at any moment. I also partially lost hearing in one of my ears. I was tasered a week or two after starting reading the Quran from the beginning, didn't finish, and didn't realize God might be punishing me. Then in 2018, my elderly uncles' apartment burns down, losing them their apartment (one of them is mentally ill) after I started reading the Torah from the beginning. I still didn't realize why God is punishing me - I only realized that God is angry at me for some reason. Then in beginning of January of 2019, I realized: God threw me away from the gates of Heaven, because the Holy Books are the Gates towards Heaven, or are Heaven. and reading them is like knocking on Heaven's door, so God visited me terrible visits, to make me realize I have unfinished business to take care of before I can come back.

AFTER READING THIS, PLEASE SHARE THIS WITH AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. PLEASE SHARE IT ON ALL YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS - FACEBOOK, ETC. If you still want to see if someone else can dispute it, then do, but DO NOT FORGET to check! Once you see it's undisputable, then SHARE IT, SHARE IT!

IT CAN SAVE MANY, MANY, MANY LIVES, AND SAVE THE WHOLE WORLD A LOT OF SINS UPON SINS, FITNAS UPON FITNAS, FOR EVERYONE!

I see your ummah, and the whole faithful world - Jews, Christians, and no matter which religion - in shambles, because of your hard-hearted stubborn hatred towards Israel, due to your hard-hearted, stubborn blindness towards this prophecy in your own Holy Book, towards the truth! WAKE UP! IT'S NOT TOO LATE! WAKE UP! IT'S NEVER TOO LATE - though the circumstances might change DRASTICALLY, and then you will be left feeling emptiness and regret and an expressionless feeling, and will say to yourself "what's the point now?", and then you will either become more hard-hearted and rebellious, or you will feel "I have to do it now, I can't keep going like that" but life will never be the same as it was - SO DO NOT GO PAST THE POINT OF "IT'S NOT TOO LATE", because THEN, things might change drastically, and then you will feel like it's TOO LATE, because your whole life is attached and built upon those people, conceptions, things, whatever - MAY GOD SAVE AND RECTIFY, AND NOT LET BE DESTROYED, BUT WE HAVE TO DO OUR PART!!!!!!!!!!