Question for Grob/Hershey...

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Quote from Babak:

Lets look at this logically and consider what benefits or harm would accrue if Jack were to do an online chat as I suggest. ok?

Benefits:

1] Showcase his system and prove it works in real time
2] Leave a great information source for others (ET chats can be archived: http://www.elitetrader.com/ch/)
3] Allow his students to learn from him in real time and perhaps learn something new
4] Make all his detractors eat heapin' helpings of crow
5] Have fun and make some money!

Harm:

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EdgeHunter seconds Babak... and thirds and fourths and well fifths him too...

~ :) ~

cj...
 
Quote from Babak:

Why don't you help us get it by coming into the ET chat room and giving us entries and exits?

Is that too hard? You're posting long, rambling posts so you obviously have the time. Just set a date, say this week and we'll come over to the chat room and follow along.

No pestering, no childish insults, etc. Just you providing entries and exits. That's all.

What do you say Jack?

The deals off.

Thats it. You have had ample opportunities to go get the trading prints, logs and charts: There you can see the hold and reverse at work. Instead, you just do your begging thing continually.

SCT is a high velocity money making scenario. You haven't gotten to the point of comprehending anything. All you do is "take".

It is not possible for you and your cronies to sit through a preopen and 6 hours of work in a language that is foreign to you.

All of this stuff is passing you by and that's the way its going to be.
 
Quote from Babak:

Lets look at this logically and consider what benefits or harm would accrue if Jack were to do an online chat as I suggest. ok?

Benefits:

1] Showcase his system and prove it works in real time
2] Leave a great information source for others (ET chats can be archived: http://www.elitetrader.com/ch/)
3] Allow his students to learn from him in real time and perhaps learn something new
4] Make all his detractors eat heapin' helpings of crow
5] Have fun and make some money!


Harm:








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Here is my differing view.

Past efforts:

1] respond to Q's about SCT (system) in ET and other places. Connect up with successful users. Continually exchange with sotfware producing corps (including beta testing).
2] Provide a great information source for others (paltalk chats were archived); make 10 one hour tapes with successful users for their offspring. Dupe the tapes. Review the equities software for TNPT and improve its performance by 20% for the producer and other users. Do an e-mail network for many years before the net.
3] Allow his students to learn from him in real time, do tutorials and guarantee the capital of those he tutors. Trade for others as a quid pro quo where they spend professional time helping others. JTH learns something new in both these matters.
5] Have fun and make some money!

Present efforts

1. Build a 10 stream SCT multimedia package and give it away to those who contribute to H for H.
2. Supporting a local IBD Meet up group with sponsorship and trading materials they request.
3. Put all b people on ignore after they default by not contributing and continuing to harrange me.

Potential harm from investigating SCT for personal use.

1. Doing something beyond one's skill's, knowledge and capabilities due to personal reasons.
2. Learning that you have wasted a lot of time in the past trying to do any kind of trading based on what you learned and tried to do with other methods.
3. Letting angry and laying your bad news on another person who is the messenger.
4. Learning that you have gone way past drawing the proper quitting line vis a vis fight or flee and becoming conscious of the reptilian trap and not knowing the need to get help.
5. Not being able to have the discipline to just pass something up that is not for you.
6. Being convinced that that you can have something by just reading and pondering and not putting forth the work that your person needs and should demand for getting it.
7. Coming to conclusions about things not understood and believing you are a rational being in what you concluded.
8. Believing that you have back tested something while still not knowing what you are doing.

And many other harmful consequences of being irrational about things and exhibiting bad behavior.
 
Quote from icarus618:

Here's an offer for you: I have audio files and saved text messages of the Paltalk sessions from a couple of years ago. If you can track down intraday data from that period, you might be able to follow along and learn something. Jack usually came on during the open and more rarely in the afternoon and there were a few of us posting trades real-time in text message.


Not to be the bearer of bad news but the many days I was in the room, I would have been better flipping a coin. After Jacks failure during that time, I doubt he will try it again.

When a trade went bad, somehow Jack had always reversed a point or two back.

Jack always says he operates 5-15 minutes ahead of the market however, during his calls it seemed to be 5 minutes behind the market.

icarus618 - Can you honestly say he made money during that "live" demonstration?

Go ahead Jack and slam me. The truth hurts.
 
Quote from reiehaxm:

Not to be the bearer of bad news but the many days I was in the room, I would have been better flipping a coin. After Jacks failure during that time, I doubt he will try it again.

When a trade went bad, somehow Jack had always reversed a point or two back.

Jack always says he operates 5-15 minutes ahead of the market however, during his calls it seemed to be 5 minutes behind the market.

icarus618 - Can you honestly say he made money during that "live" demonstration?

Go ahead Jack and slam me. The truth hurts.

and what about $$$-evidence for a consistent 3x h-l net result?? (maybe even on one single day)
 
FOCUS!
Thru bar 10... BA, I see that you have str/squ values automated (a nifty spreadsheet). Care to take a few Q's???

NLP = Neuro-Lingusitic Programming, this has to deal with your mind and internal wiring... Know what you're speaking of!

MAK!!!
 

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Quote from makosgu:

FOCUS!
Thru bar 10... BA, I see that you have str/squ values automated (a nifty spreadsheet). Care to take a few Q's???

NLP = Neuro-Lingusitic Programming, this has to deal with your mind and make up... Know what you're speaking of!

MAK!!!

volume poor today - right? maybe you should try the Z5 contract.
 
Quote from gerry875:

volume poor today - right? maybe you should try the Z5 contract.

That explains it... Should have gotten a second cup of SBUX. Channels still the same... Pt3 was exact (cheated again & adj for contract offset)

MAK!
 
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