Question about James Stock

[Hello_Dollars]

Quote from electron:

And who stopped them eventually? Americans, of course? What a joke? Have you ever heard that WWII started in Poland? I don't think you will ever guess why. And don't tell me that it was because of the US Army that Hitler was eventually defeated. The Red Army would finish him off anyway, it was only a matter of time.

Americans got in at the time Hitler had lost half of his previously conquered empire. A convenient moment to brag about their victory, except that the real victors are Russians, who would finish him sooner or later and who did the most of the work.

Hey assh*le, it was a world war against the Axis powers, not just Nazi Germany. So before we liberated Europe pursuant to a plan devised by and for the benefit of the allies, and while your grandparents were cowering in a basement as the Germans waltzed unfettered around whatever ungrateful and undeserving European province you're from, ours were dying all across the Pacific and North Africa. And speaking of the Reds, you cowardly Europeans again acquitted yourself marvelously against the Soviets during the Cold War, didn't you?

Indeed, as I've pointed out previously, were it not for America, you and the rest of continental Europe would now be speaking some mangled German-Russian concoction that would be only slightly less grating on the ear than guttural French. So dasvidanya schvienhundt!

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from electron:

And who stopped them eventually? Americans, of course? What a joke? Have you ever heard that WWII started in Poland? I don't think you will ever guess why. And don't tell me that it was because of the US Army that Hitler was eventually defeated. The Red Army would finish him off anyway, it was only a matter of time.

Americans got in at the time Hitler had lost half of his previously conquered empire. A convenient moment to brag about their victory, except that the real victors are Russians, who would finish him sooner or later and who did the most of the work.

Oh yeah, the good old Russians. I like how they stopped in each village along the way raping and killing every woman in their path. Molesting every young girl. Oh, those courageous Russians. Dude, you are one sick POS. I actually had family that was raped by those sadistic Russians. You understand? Don't start playing them as heroes you faggot POS!

And for what it's worth, I think our carpet bombing of Germany had a little something to do with Hitler's diminished military. Get a clue man. Most of Europe was a bunch of pussies as Hitler marched from country to country. They opened up their homes and had their wives and daughters waiting on the front step for them. They could have at least gone down fighting and left this world with a little bit of dignity and respect. France will never be able to live down their cowardliness for as long as they exist. End of story.

 

[sulong]

Quote from Maverick74:

You are dead wrong about this. At no point in history has it ever been easier to start a business. All thanks to the internet. More and more people are giving up the daily commute and starting their own companies at home.

Mav,
you are either very young, or very naive.
Not too many years ago, if a person chose to, he could turn the front of his home into some sort of a retail outlet, just by building and stocking the shelves.
Can a person do that now? I don't think so.

Internet? Are you talking about a data technician? A glorified secretary? If you are, perhaps you're right.



Yeah, it's really hard living on $15 an hour. LMAO. Granted I should disclose that this is St.Louis, MO we are talking about but still, they are living large. I make multiples of what they make and live a fraction of the lifestyle they live by choice. I'm a cheap f*ck by nature.




Are you guys missing the point on purpose?
The whole point is, big brother wants to be paid off at every turn, in order to become a legitimate business person.
Regardless of the wage,( the wage is not the point) big brother wants a larger portion of your current wealth, to get the doors open.

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from sulong:

Quote from Maverick74:

You are dead wrong about this. At no point in history has it ever been easier to start a business. All thanks to the internet. More and more people are giving up the daily commute and starting their own companies at home.

Mav,
you are either very young, or very naive.
Not too many years ago, if a person chose to, he could turn the front of his home into some sort of a retail outlet, just by building and stocking the shelves.
Can a person do that now? I don't think so.

Internet? Are you talking about a data technician? A glorified secretary? If you are, perhaps you're right.



Yeah, it's really hard living on $15 an hour. LMAO. Granted I should disclose that this is St.Louis, MO we are talking about but still, they are living large. I make multiples of what they make and live a fraction of the lifestyle they live by choice. I'm a cheap f*ck by nature.




Are you guys missing the point on purpose?
The whole point is, big brother wants to be paid off at every turn, in order to become a legitimate business person.
Regardless of the wage,( the wage is not the point) big brother wants a larger portion of your current wealth, to get the doors open.

But your argument doesn't hold water. You said that no man can survive today in this country on $12 to $15 an hour. You said nobody can afford to start their own business. This simply is not true and you know it. We have 1000 times as many new small businesses as we had in the 1950's. And the standard of living in this country has never been better. Your original statement holds no water.

 

[sulong]

Quote from Maverick74:

But your argument doesn't hold water. You said that no man can survive today in this country on $12 to $15 an hour. You said nobody can afford to start their own business. This simply is not true and you know it. We have 1000 times as many new small businesses as we had in the 1950's. And the standard of living in this country has never been better. Your original statement holds no water.

Actually, what I said was this. ( read carfully )

The proper question is: Is there more inexpensive opportunity now in the US, or was there more in 1969. ( any time in the past )

By inexpensive, I mean, can a person working for 40 hours a week, making around 12-15 dollars an hour, save enough money in a year to start an gainful enterprise?

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33568&perpage=6&pagenumber=6

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from sulong:

Actually, what I said was this.

The proper question is: Is there more inexpensive opportunity now in the US, or was there more in 1969. ( any time in the past )

By inexpensive, I mean, can a person working for 40 hours a week, making around 12-15 dollars an hour, save enough money in a year to start an gainful enterprise?

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33568&perpage=6&pagenumber=6

The answer to that question is yes there is. A person working a 40 hour week making 12 to 15 an hour can start a gainful enterprise. I'll give you an example as it pertains to a friend of mine. I use to deliver pizzas years ago for a new restaurant. One of my buddies was a pizza maker making about $8 an hour or so. After a few years, he proved his reliability and the owner decided to let him have the opportunity to have himself his own store. So he started paying him like 35k a year to manage his own store and help him raise the money to buy the store. He also gave him a piece of the gross. Oh yeah, this guy was also like 20 years old. Not bad Sulong, not bad at all. How did the story end, he owns not one, but two stores now and makes about 150k a year, 75k from each and he is 25 or so now. Only in America Sulong, only in America.

 

[sulong]

Quote from Maverick74:

So he started paying him like 35k a year to manage his own store and help him raise the money to buy the store. He also gave him a piece of the gross.

Oh I get it, if you have a sugar daddy, Then you can do it.

Any way, here it is again

"By inexpensive, I mean, can a person working for 40 hours a week, making around 12-15 dollars an hour, save enough money in a year to start an gainful enterprise?"

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from sulong:

Oh I get it, if you have a sugar daddy, Then you can do it.

Any way, here it is again

"By inexpensive, I mean, can a person working for 40 hours a week, making around 12-15 dollars an hour, save enough money in a year to start an gainful enterprise?"

Sugar daddy? What are you talking about? His boss paid him and helped him open up a store. That is how a lot of franchises work in this country son, even you could do it.

As far as saving enough money sure. I did it. I started a trading company with $300. Dead serious. Turned $300 into, well, let's just say, a lot of money, and created my own LLC. So yes, it can be done. Granted, it's easier to do this with trading then say, a manufacturing company but that is not what you asked. Dude, the bottom line is, it's really not that hard. When I lived in NY, I knew a lot of guys that tended bar at night, saved up their tip money and eventually started their own business.

I think I see the problem here. I think it is YOU that has failed and struggled and can't find a way to get ahead and you are just blaming it on America instead of yourself. Why not put the blame where it lies, at yourself? Most of my friends opted not to work in the corporate world and instead started small businesses. They are all very successful, so yes, it can be done and is done every day. Do you even have a point here.

 

[sulong]

Quote from Maverick74:

As far as saving enough money sure. I did it. I started a trading company with $300. Dead serious. Turned $300 into, well, let's just say, a lot of money, and created my own LLC.

How much did your computer cost to begin trading? your ISP? your charting, or what ever information you use in your trading?

Where did the funds come from to pay for your rent/mortgage, electricity exc...while you were trading?
No, you did not start with only $300.00

Do you even have a point here.

Good question, can a trader make enough $$$ to pay his mortgage, with a $300.00 account?

Perhaps my idea of "gainful enterprise" is diffrent than yours.

 

[Coins]

HD, YOU are sure someone to be calling Electron an assh*le!

I can't THINK of a bigger assh*le on this BOARD than you. Perhaps Mav gives you a run for your money.

Quote from Hello_Dollars:

Hey assh*le, it was a world war against the Axis powers, not just Nazi Germany. So before we liberated Europe pursuant to a plan devised by and for the benefit of the allies, and while your grandparents were cowering in a basement as the Germans waltzed unfettered around whatever ungrateful and undeserving European province you're from, ours were dying all across the Pacific and North Africa. And speaking of the Reds, you cowardly Europeans again acquitted yourself marvelously against the Soviets during the Cold War, didn't you?

Indeed, as I've pointed out previously, were it not for America, you and the rest of continental Europe would now be speaking some mangled German-Russian concoction that would be only slightly less grating on the ear than guttural French. So dasvidanya schvienhundt!