Putin speaks to the American people in The New York Times

Quote from Martinghoul:

I wasn't actually being sarcastic. Like VV, I very much dislike the whole "American exceptionalism" meme. I think it's a propaganda tool that's better than anything the Soviets have ever come up with.

As to VV not being religion-friendly, I think I'd beg to differ. During his rule, religion has been promoted like nothing I've ever observed before. I don't think that his reasons for this are anything benevolent or moral, but the fact remains.
I think any organization with the highest values and best practices IS exceptional. Our love, enshrinement, and ability to bring into force freedom of speech and democracy (despite shortcomings and mistakes, which all nations have) is greater than Russia's. We are more exceptional than they.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Putin's appeal to the American people is audacious, to use a term Obama likes.

I think it is unprecedented, both in its very audaciousness and in the reaction. For most of our history, th eonly people who would have responded well to an appeal from the Russian leader would have been the Hollywood left, university dopes and members of the media. Ordinary rank and file citizens would have rejected it out of hand and would have been offended at what would seem an appeal to ddisloyalty.

Obama has managed to change all that. Many Americans actually trust Putin more than Obama. We know Putin is a KGB killer and thug, but at least he is rational. With Obama, you can't be sure.

It's pretty sad when one has to look to a foreign leader to stop your own president.

I can't help but feel we are fortunate to have an elder statesman like Putin to be around at such a tumultuous time in world affairs. Who was going to stop Obama? Nobody was going to say no to the messiah. David Cameron? Just another lapdog. Hollande? What a joke. China? China is only interested in business and erm...China. Only Putin had the courage and clear- mindedness to see where all this was going. Ironically, he might have just saved America from yet another foreign misadventure.
 
Quote from Grandluxe:

It's pretty sad when one has to look to a foreign leader to stop your own president.

I can't help but feel we are fortunate to have an elder statesman like Putin to be around at such a tumultuous time in world affairs. Who was going to stop Obama? Nobody was going to say no to the messiah. David Cameron? Just another lapdog. Hollande? What a joke. China? China is only interested in business and erm...China. Only Putin had the courage and clear- mindedness to see where all this was going. Ironically, he might have just saved America from yet another foreign misadventure.
You're psychotic. You play for this team, for better or for worse, or you get the fuck out.

Obama is not creating America's division, plutocracy is. It was just like this during our last fling with high inequality, the so-called gilded age.
 
Quote from Ricter:
I think any organization with the highest values and best practices IS exceptional. Our love, enshrinement, and ability to bring into force freedom of speech and democracy (despite shortcomings and mistakes, which all nations have) is greater than Russia's. We are more exceptional than they.
Well, we will just have to agree to disagree on this...

Classification of values as "highest" and practices as "best" is a very subjective business, innit? Your "highest" values can easily be my "lowest" and vice versa.

Finally, don't think being "relatively more exceptional" computes for me.
 
We were exceptional.

When we had a great balance in our country between freedom loving liberals and business loving republicans with plenty of educated constitution loving patriots on both sides.

We ceased being exceptional when our left side went from being classical (constitution and freedom loving ) liberals to progressive big govt loving drones.

Now we have two sets of politicians both sets selling out the people and the constitution on every big vote.
 
Quote from Martinghoul:


As to VV not being religion-friendly, I think I'd beg to differ. During his rule, religion has been promoted like nothing I've ever observed before. I don't think that his reasons for this are anything benevolent or moral, but the fact remains.

Please go back and dig up what VV was like when he was the Mayor of St. Pete, and during his time as KGB 2nd directorate.
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:
Please go back and dig up what VV was like when he was the Mayor of St. Pete, and during his time as KGB 2nd directorate.
Putin was Mayor of St. Petersburg? When was that?

I was only referring to what happened to religion in Russia during the time he was president.
 
They are united in their outrage. Sorry boy's, good old Vlad outpalyed you, and now you're pissed? You incompentent fucks couldn't plan a picnic, and Putin just shoved your faces in that fact. No Mr. U.S. politcal slug, all 535 of you worthless pieces of shit, Putin did not insult me, he insulted you, and you deserve it.

It’s not every day that an opinion piece in The New York Times simultaneously insults the Republican speaker of the House and nearly causes the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to nearly "vomit."

But that’s exactly what happened when Russian President Vladimir Putin penned an article calling for the U.S. government, which is considering launching a military strike on Syria for alleged war crimes, to use restraint in the Middle East. In his piece, Putin also took issue with part of President Barack Obama's national address on Syria on Tuesday night, which made the case for military action and praised “American exceptionalism.”

“It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation,” Putin wrote.

“I was at dinner,” New Jersey Democratic Sen. Bob Menendez said on CNN after he read the piece. “And I almost wanted to vomit.”

Other lawmakers were equally blunt.

“I was insulted,” House Speaker John Boehner told reporters on Thursday morning. “I’ve probably already said more than I should have said, but you’ve got the truth.”

Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain called Putin's piece an “insult to the intelligence of every American.”
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:

They are united in their outrage. Sorry boy's, good old Vlad outpalyed you...
Right on, Kerry, keep up the pressure:

"GENEVA — U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry is rejecting Syrian President Bashar Assad's suggestion Thursday that he begin submitting data on his chemical weapons arsenal one month after signing an international chemical weapons ban.

"Speaking at a news conference with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, Kerry noted that Assad said a 30-day lead time would be standard.

"There is nothing standard about this process," Kerry said, because Assad has used his chemical weapons.

"The words of the Syrian regime in our judgment are simply not enough."

"Kerry cautioned that a U.S. military strike could occur if Assad doesn't agree to dismantle his chemical arsenal properly.

"He said, "There ought to be consequences if it doesn't take place."

"Lavrov said the dismantling "will make unnecessary any strike against the Syrian Arab Republic."

Alright then, git 'er done.
 
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