I know my school isn't the greatest, but it doesn't mean that smart people do not go there. There are also some idiots at Harvard. I just see my degree as something for HR to check off.
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Prop Firms in NYC with salary, free training, and no programming experience necessary
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I know my school isn't the greatest, but it doesn't mean that smart people do not go there. There are also some idiots at Harvard. I just see my degree as something for HR to check off.
Quote from kmgilroy89:
Well, I can't compete with the computers making microsecond trades so scalping seems like it would be difficult. I would like to do a combo of different techniques including both day and swing trading
Personally I think scalping is easier, precisely because of the bots. Remember, pretty preppy boys who can't program come up with the ideas. Then nerdy public university guys create the descriptive algorithms and code them. I assure you, as one of the latter, that we tell them the code does what they want, but because they haven't a clue we greatly simplify the idea it to make it practical and efficiently executable. So the bot algorithms are not as flashy as they want you to believe they are. You can see this very clearly in price action. They were designed by humans, so they act like humans. My longest trade was 47 seconds today.
A day trade that segues into a swing trade based on EOD reasoning is not a bad way to go. If you can drink yourself to sleep at night.
Quote from kmgilroy89:
I know my school isn't the greatest, but it doesn't mean that smart people do not go there. There are also some idiots at Harvard. I just see my degree as something for HR to check off.
Couldn't be further from the truth. What school you went to matters, but what you did there matters more. If you went to UConn because of money, but got a 4.0 and did a dual major, etc. you might have a chance against the guy who funded his own way through Yale and got a 4.0 (you'll be surprized at how many).
The idiots from harvard don't get the jobs either.
GPA shows what you did over 4 years - it's not a bad metric for work ethic + intelligence.
Quote from kmgilroy89:
1. Uconn is ranked like 58th in the country and it's a top public school. Being a CT resident it was only $20k a year. So should I pay an extra $100k to take the same classes? I didn't even consider that at the time.
2. Coming on here says that I want to learn and hopefully learn quickly. If there are forums filled with traders and I want to be a trader why should I guess what to do when I can ask people with more knowledge than me?
3. Believe it or not, not everybody does everything for money. Some people actually want to help others. Many of them got help themselves and see it as giving back to where they came from. Not everybody is born a know-it-all like you.
4. There are different types of traders. Some program more than others. I said I'd be willing to learn how to program, but I don't want to be essentially a professional programmer.
You sound like a jealous, bitter old man. You bash my generation, because you did not have the ability to learn as quickly as we do. We live in the day where it's much easier to access information.
Laughable, like the rest of your posts. Problem is, you haven't learned anything. You watch a couple of TV shows, throw around a few buzzwords.
To your rebuttals:
1. Yes I know what Uconn is. While you have taken the "same classes", you have no connections to anyone that can be remotely helpful to you. So here you are on this board. Like I said, good luck with that. FYI, you don't go to good schools to learn stuff, you go there to meet people. By your logic you are a complete moron for paying 20K to Uconn when university of phoenix charges $895 for those "same classes".
2. How could you want to be a trader, you don't even know what one does? Do you know any traders? Up until this point, you have never traded (live or demo even on small accounts). You may as well say you want to be one of those big "hollywood actors". (see my pro golfer analogy)
3. Exactly. Except YOU are the one who wants to be paid. Look at the title of your post-- NYC with salary, free training, no programming, --you may as well have added tuition re-imbursement, fridays off, full benefits, corporate jet and bang the bosses daughter.
4. I'm not even going to touch this one. You haven't a clue about anything.
Jealous and bitter? Not remotely. Because I have what you think you want. Gilroy from Uconn... I can't wait til your resume passes my desk. Everyone stay tuned!!!
Quote from hilojack:
Laughable, like the rest of your posts. Problem is, you haven't learned anything. You watch a couple of TV shows, throw around a few buzzwords.
To your rebuttals:
1. Yes I know what Uconn is. While you have taken the "same classes", you have no connections to anyone that can be remotely helpful to you. So here you are on this board. Like I said, good luck with that. FYI, you don't go to good schools to learn stuff, you go there to meet people. By your logic you are a complete moron for paying 20K to Uconn when university of phoenix charges $895 for those "same classes".
2. How could you want to be a trader, you don't even know what one does? Do you know any traders? Up until this point, you have never traded (live or demo even on small accounts). You may as well say you want to be one of those big "hollywood actors". (see my pro golfer analogy)
3. Exactly. Except YOU are the one who wants to be paid. Look at the title of your post-- NYC with salary, free training, no programming, --you may as well have added tuition re-imbursement, fridays off, full benefits, corporate jet and bang the bosses daughter.
4. I'm not even going to touch this one. You haven't a clue about anything.
Jealous and bitter? Not remotely. Because I have what you think you want. Gilroy from Uconn... I can't wait til your resume passes my desk. Everyone stay tuned!!!
You have a problem with me going for the best opportunity I can try and find. Did you ever think that if I can't find anything I might actually lower my standards? What I'm saying would be ideal for me. Does that mean I will get it? No, but I'm still going to try. I don't know who you are, or where you work, but if you were that successful I don't know why you're not trading right now instead of talking to me. I could be wrong, but I highly doubt I'd want a job ordering your burgers and cleaning your laundry anyways.
Quote from kmgilroy89:
I know my school isn't the greatest, but it doesn't mean that smart people do not go there. There are also some idiots at Harvard. I just see my degree as something for HR to check off.
I mean no offense by this, but the higher educational system finds the very best and gets them to enroll at the very best. I know, because I am a half-baked product of that system. I repeat that you do not know how smart TRULY smart people are, because you never had to compete against them. Neither do I, really, but I remember the shock of being a highly regarded small town academic going to a state university and discovering how truly dumb I was. My first Dunning-Kruger enlightenment. As we say in the South, "Truly stupid people don't know that they are." Truly.
Quote from hilojack:
Jealous and bitter? Not remotely. Because I have what you think you want. Gilroy from Uconn... I can't wait til your resume passes my desk. Everyone stay tuned!!!
You know this is a well-executed elaborate charade? I am in awe, and repeat my claim from Opie's other earnest thread that he is a fabulous deadpan humorist. Either that, or a CFI as you think. It is not unlike talking to some fat cow on a "Chat With Beautiful Women" 900 number.
Quote from kmgilroy89:
You have a problem with me going for the best opportunity I can try and find. Did you ever think that if I can't find anything I might actually lower my standards? What I'm saying would be ideal for me. Does that mean I will get it? No, but I'm still going to try. I don't know who you are, or where you work, but if you were that successful I don't know why you're not trading right now instead of talking to me. I could be wrong, but I highly doubt I'd want a job ordering your burgers and cleaning your laundry anyways.
Look kid, I have no problem with you doing whatever your little heart desires. I'm just telling you sorry it aint gonna happen don't waste your time. Without an attitude adjustment, change in work ethic, accomplishments to speak of, you've got a snowballs chance in hell.
Your only chance is to put up the 5K and some place and pray like hell that you get lucky. Frankly if I were you I'd stick to poker.
Quote from Albert Cibiades:
You know this is a well-executed elaborate charade? I am in awe, and repeat my claim from Opie's other earnest thread that he is a fabulous deadpan humorist. Either that, or a CFI as you think.
No way man, this kid's trying hard. Who else but a Uconn grad would be able to come back with that #58 ranking so quickly???
Quote from Albert Cibiades:
I mean no offense by this, but the higher educational system finds the very best and gets them to enroll at the very best. I know, because I am a half-baked product of that system. I repeat that you do not know how smart TRULY smart people are, because you never had to compete against them. Neither do I, really, but I remember the shock of being a highly regarded small town academic going to a state university and discovering how truly dumb I was. My first Dunning-Kruger enlightenment. As we say in the South, "Truly stupid people don't know that they are." Truly.
Not everybody at Harvard has the IQ of Ted Kaczynski. I know that there are plenty of people who do things that I mentally cannot and probably never will be able to do. That kind of ticks me off. However, I try to think very logically and put thoughts into sets.