Pro life nonsense will defeat republican presidential candidate

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from bigarrow:

The economy is owned mostly by the republicans, just to help you get the facts straight. Did you forget the mess they left?

Just curious, but how long has to pass before the current administration owns the decisions in this economical down turn?

Or will it always be Bush's fault?

 

[bone]

Quote from bigarrow:

If so I hope it isn't one of the right's crazies or low IQ candidates that wins it.
Our country can't afford another Bush, not now.

Our country cannot afford another Bush, and our country cannot afford another Obama, and our country cannot afford to keep spending money it does not have.

 

[bigarrow]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Just curious, but how long has to pass before the current administration owns the decisions in this economical down turn?

Or will it always be Bush's fault?

If a madman cuts your leg off, the madman will always own the problem. Obama has done much more to help the economy than the republicans have. The right has done nothing and has proposed nothing. If they have an idea then lets hear it. What was the alternative to the increase in government spending? Say instead of the increase in spending we decreased spending and the unemployment rate jumps a few more percentage. Say we didn't bail out GM and there's another few million workers out of work. There is no painless solution, if we are going to save jobs it's going to cost government money, if we are going to cut government spending in a recession it's going to cost jobs.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from bigarrow:

If a madman cuts your leg off, the madman will always own the problem. Obama has done much more to help the economy than the republicans have. The right has done nothing and has proposed nothing. If they have an idea then lets hear it. What was the alternative to the increase in government spending? Say instead of the increase in spending we decreased spending and the unemployment rate jumps a few more percentage. Say we didn't bail out GM and there's another few million workers out of work. There is no painless solution, if we are going to save jobs it's going to cost government money, if we are going to cut government spending in a recession it's going to cost jobs.

And that is the fundamental difference. It is not that the republicans don't have ideas, they do. It's that their ideas will only work for one economic class, they will not work for the bulk of Americans.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from bigarrow:

Our country can't afford another Bush, not now.

OR another Obama.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from bigarrow:

If a madman cuts your leg off, the madman will always own the problem. Obama has done much more to help the economy than the republicans have. The right has done nothing and has proposed nothing. If they have an idea then lets hear it. What was the alternative to the increase in government spending? Say instead of the increase in spending we decreased spending and the unemployment rate jumps a few more percentage. Say we didn't bail out GM and there's another few million workers out of work. There is no painless solution, if we are going to save jobs it's going to cost government money, if we are going to cut government spending in a recession it's going to cost jobs.

Your analogy about a cut off leg is flawed on so many levels I don't know where to start. The economy is a fluid system, not something that is destroyed or created. Decisions made every day can impact what happens. Yes, the Bush administration handed a damaged economy to Obama. But Obama has made horrendous decisions along the way and compounded the issue further. Only the blind would not be able to see that.

Carter handed Reagan a disaster too, but Reagan turned it around. He didn't sit there weeping "boo hoo, it's not my fault." The buck stops in the highest office in the land. It's Obama's economy now. And he's failing in spades.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Your analogy about a cut off leg is flawed on so many levels I don't know where to start. The economy is a fluid system, not something that is destroyed or created. Decisions made every day can impact what happens. Yes, the Bush administration handed a damaged economy to Obama. But Obama has made horrendous decisions along the way and compounded the issue further. Only the blind would not be able to see that.

Carter handed Reagan a disaster too, but Reagan turned it around. He didn't sit there weeping "boo hoo, it's not my fault." The buck stops in the highest office in the land. It's Obama's economy now. And he's failing in spades.

Agreed

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Ricter:

And that is the fundamental difference. It is not that the republicans don't have ideas, they do. It's that their ideas will only work for one economic class, they will not work for the bulk of Americans.

If you mean that cutting taxes and spending would help only middle to upper class, then you're right. But why is that? Is it because the middle and upper classes are the only ones who pay taxes in the first place? And maybe that the lower classes are the only ones who benefit from all of the entitlement programs?

Who creates the jobs, eh? Oh yeah, you want government to do that.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

If you mean that cutting taxes and spending would help only middle to upper class, then you're right. But why is that? Is it because the middle and upper classes are the only ones who pay taxes in the first place? And maybe that the lower classes are the only ones who benefit from all of the entitlement programs?

Who creates the jobs, eh? Oh yeah, you want government to do that.

I create jobs, and I don't need my taxes lowered to do that. I need my customers to have more money. But lowering their taxes isn't going to help because they, as you say, don't pay any.

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from Tsing Tao:



Carter handed Reagan a disaster too, but Reagan turned it around.

Carter didn't leave Reagan 2 wars,a housing and financial collapse and a trillion dollar deficit along with a bad economy