Predicting is ***Unavoidable***
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ROFLMAO! I have a link to dbphoenix's thread as well. Does that mean I recommend everyone follow dbphoenix to the t2w boards? Of course it doesn't, but you keep right on believing in those delusions of yours.
Once again, you show an inability to admit your errors.
From the following quote, we see clearly what the current recommendation involves.
I can see how you missed it. It's on the first page.
Again, please link to where the current discussion calls for using either the MACD or Stochastics Indicators. Surely, such evidence exists - a chart, a quote, something, right?
Keep up the great work!
- Spydertrader
Nice try but your ignorance is clear to anyone with a brain.
Why don't you show us how you apply all this to your one period SMA that you mentioned earlier? ROTFLMAO!
P.S. Easyrider never did provide any proof of his claims which, BTW, contradicted his earlier posts and your Worden claim is probably nothing more than a gross misrepresentation at best to try and suck in more noobs.
Why don't you show us how you apply all this to your one period SMA that you mentioned earlier? ROTFLMAO!
P.S. Easyrider never did provide any proof of his claims which, BTW, contradicted his earlier posts and your Worden claim is probably nothing more than a gross misrepresentation at best to try and suck in more noobs.
LOLOLOLOL! For the THIRD time, this is only THREE MONTHS OLD and in it, Jack says: "I do use the stochastic abou five different ways...."
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1294761&highlight=stochastic#post1294761
Are you Jack's propaganda minister? You're certainly acting like it!
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1294761&highlight=stochastic#post1294761
Are you Jack's propaganda minister? You're certainly acting like it!
Predictably, none of Jack's apologists have addressed his "P,V Boolean relation" manifesto (that I posted a copy of a few posts ago) which advocates predicting... the title is: "Catch Up With Tomorrow's Paper Today," and the sub-title is: "Technical Analysis Used in a Manner to Anticipate the Market." If that doesn't reek of prediction, I don't know what does.
Tick/DOM chart... Have you ever plotted your car's speed in realtime? Probably never as it's something nobody would do. However, if you did, you would see a one period SMA. NOTE CAREFULLY, how this differential is with respect to a second independent variable. If you looked at this plot carefully, you would notice the point at which your acceleration started decreasing even though your speed was increasing. Mon ami, at that point, you would have just seen a leading indicator. AHA There are several in driving. Surprisingly, none of the leading ones have to do with you, but rather what's in front of you (ie. brake lights in the distance, traffic reports, road turns, etc...). This means you are looking elsewhere. In trading there are other places you can look other than the P of your vehicle.
So tell me again about discontinuous functions why I can't do stochastic analysis. You know newton used approximation to get at the general principle of calculus. Liebniz came from the other perspective.
So, since everything is apparently a claim to you, then I am finding your claims to be unsubstantiated. Your backtests, you claim to be ridiculously negative. They looked dare I say photoshopped. You claim to have properly backtested. You claim to have properly interpreted the material. These are all claims mon ami? Where is the proof?
Plotting a car's speed is NOT analogous at all so let's clear the smoke and go back to tick charts. A one period SMA of a tick chart is nothing more than connecting the dots and is NOT differentiable at any of the ticks. I never said one couldn't do stochastic analysis on discontinuous functions (although you probably can't) and I know all about upper sums, lower sums, etc. Do you?
On claims... YOU guys are the ones making the fantastic claims about 3X daily range, 4% to 7% per day, etc., etc... so here you go again, obfuscating the real issue and attempting to squirm away without any substantiation or proof.
On claims... YOU guys are the ones making the fantastic claims about 3X daily range, 4% to 7% per day, etc., etc... so here you go again, obfuscating the real issue and attempting to squirm away without any substantiation or proof.
We have been booted out of Thunderdogs thread, so I have moved my discussion with Hypo here...
I follow you perfectly. But we are talking about two different things Hypo.
From your perspective you are waiting for the market to "show it's hand" before taking action. That is quantifiable. All TA in quantifiable.
But if you are in the market at all times you don't need to wait for anything. You are only following the direction of the market as it moves. It is the same as if you are expecting a formula one driver to drive the same race at the same speed everytime, just because he is running against the same drivers. Impossible to do.
The fact that it will take a year to learn this system is what it my opinion makes it so much more desirable to learn.
But will see. As I mentioned I will do the best to get this material down cold and report to you in December.
I follow you perfectly. But we are talking about two different things Hypo.
From your perspective you are waiting for the market to "show it's hand" before taking action. That is quantifiable. All TA in quantifiable.
But if you are in the market at all times you don't need to wait for anything. You are only following the direction of the market as it moves. It is the same as if you are expecting a formula one driver to drive the same race at the same speed everytime, just because he is running against the same drivers. Impossible to do.
The fact that it will take a year to learn this system is what it my opinion makes it so much more desirable to learn.
But will see. As I mentioned I will do the best to get this material down cold and report to you in December.
You call it dot connecting, and you can't evaluate where you have change along the curve without calculating it. I see it, you attempt to calculate it. My ability to see it was a skill I learned in school. It is another example of what I see and what you don't. For you, there is nothing analogous for making money it seams. When you can't percieve of ways in which money can be made, it biases what you can do and establishes what you can't do. Just because you cannot concieve of something does not mean it is not possible. Most people cannot percieve of time dilation but that does not make it any less real. YOU KNOW? In school, teachers use illustrations to relate a concept. Some get it some don't. "Catch up". Some get it, you don't... Why is that?
Being that you understand the work of Jean Gaston Darboux, which is a different ballgame than Ito/Stratonovic et al, then why don't you get out there and make some money using his work. You see the subinterval partitions? You realize that the a single subinterval is arbitrarily large or small. Pick a subinterval and set aside the subinterval as a now interval. Pick any combo of indicators over the entire range and see what the now values are across all the indicators. There, mon ami, is a NOW dataset. This is fractal like, as small as an instant, as large as a yearly chart. Could you imagine trading a yearly chart??? Your now, when you get your signal, is anytime during the current now year bar... Sure you can improve or make worst of the entry point within the year bar, but the improvement/degredation intrabar is not invalidating your signal...
Who is doing what is what's important to you. How about learning something. If you learn nothing that is ok and you move on! That is the bellcurve. Without a you on the curve, there wouldn't be some of us who are on the opposite side of your curve...