Predestination

Perhaps the professionals in religion would be better spending much more time in focusing on their profession - Compassion! That most other people would not care much as the religious people usually do!

Then the professionals in science who possess scientific research and investigating skills/knowledge, and the professionals in philosophy who possess philosophical arguing and logic skills/knowledge, would have better and deeper meaningful saying about Creation! For the religious people to learn from and update their understanding about Nature - with probably an ongoing and never-ending process!
 
Just 2 cents:

In the business of compassion, its professionals and practitioners, imo, would not argue with others against any subjects. Applying any dogmas to anyone could be a source/cause of arguments. Detrimental to spreading compassionate messages, also to implementing compassionate acts. Poor evidence, Bigly!

Coordinating resources from all potential contributors, especially through avoiding arguments or creating enemies, would be the highest priority when providing necessary helps to the needy and the weakest/lowest. Even that would produce certain uncomfortable feeling inside! (Love your enemies, they just don't understand!)

Otherwise, the business of compassion, aka (true) religions, would be diminishing over time - mainly because their compassion acts that can be seen in the public are gradually and largely disappearing! Sad!
 
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gwb-trading said:
Are our entire lives predestined?
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Depends of your imagination and/or fantasy. The more you have from one of them or even from both, the more convinced you are that predestination exists.

When people read their horoscope, for some of them the horoscope is always correct.
Horrorscope.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa

Criticism
Main article: Criticism of Mother Teresa

According to a paper by Canadian academics Serge Larivée, Geneviève Chénard and Carole Sénéchal, Teresa's clinics received millions of dollars in donations but lacked medical care, systematic diagnosis, necessary nutrition and sufficient analgesics for those in pain:[113] "Mother Teresa believed the sick must suffer like Christ on the cross".[114] It was said that the additional money might have transformed the health of the city's poor by creating advanced palliative care facilities.[115][116] Abortion-rights groups criticised Teresa's stance on abortion,[117][118][119] and opponents of abortion praised her support of fetal rights.[120][121][122]

One of Teresa's most outspoken critics was English journalist, literary critic and antitheist Christopher Hitchens, author of the essay The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice (1995), who wrote in a 2003 article: "This returns us to the medieval corruption of the church, which sold indulgences to the rich while preaching hellfire and continence to the poor. [Mother Teresa] was not a friend of the poor. She was a friend of poverty. She said that suffering was a gift from God. She spent her life opposing the only known cure for poverty, which is the empowerment of women and the emancipation of them from a livestock version of compulsory reproduction."[123] He accused her of hypocrisy for choosing advanced treatment for her heart condition.[124][125]

Although Hitchens thought he was the only witness called by the Vatican, Aroup Chatterjee (author of Mother Teresa: The Untold Story) was also called to present evidence opposing Teresa's beatification and canonisation;[126] the Vatican had abolished the traditional "devil's advocate", which served a similar purpose.[126] Hitchens said that "her intention was not to help people", and she lied to donors about how their contributions were used. "It was by talking to her that I discovered, and she assured me, that she wasn't working to alleviate poverty", he said, "She was working to expand the number of Catholics. She said, 'I'm not a social worker. I don't do it for this reason. I do it for Christ. I do it for the church.'"[127]

Hitchens' criticism has got a comprehensive answer by Donohue, William A. [128]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Missionary_Position:_Mother_Teresa_in_Theory_and_Practice
 
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Monday 6 February 2017

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...buse-in-catholic-church-in-australia-revealed

Royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse

4,444 victims: extent of abuse in Catholic church in Australia revealed

* 37% of all private sessions royal commission held with survivors related to the Catholic church
* The average age of alleged victims was 10.5 for girls and just over 11.5 for boys
* In one order 40% of religious brothers are believed to have abused children


https://www.theguardian.com/austral...sclosure-of-sex-abuse-allegations-expert-says
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https://www.theguardian.com/austral...institutional-responses-to-child-sexual-abuse
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compassion is tricky
is it compassionate to allow a person to kill himself.
to allow women to abort their own children
to allow infanticide
there is a reason for the saying "the road to hell is paved with good intentions."
Should a president be compassionate for terrorists or should he execute them.
I don't see how you can drone them compassionately.

Love might be the true religion but not compassion.
Compassion needs proper guidance.




OddTrader said:
Just 2 cents:

In the business of compassion, its professionals and practitioners, imo, would not argue with others against any subjects. Applying any dogmas to anyone could be a source/cause of arguments. Detrimental to spreading compassionate messages, also to implementing compassionate acts. Poor evidence, Bigly!

Coordinating resources from all potential contributors, especially through avoiding arguments or creating enemies, would be the highest priority when providing necessary helps to the needy and the weakest/lowest. Even that would produce certain uncomfortable feeling inside! (Love your enemies, they just don't understand!)

Otherwise, the business of compassion, aka (true) religions, would be diminishing over time - mainly because their compassion acts that can be seen in the public are gradually and largely disappearing! Sad!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compassion


Compassion is the response to the suffering of others that motivates a desire to help.[1][2]

Compassion motivates people to go out of their way to help physical, spiritual, or emotional hurts or pains of another. Compassion is often regarded as having an emotional aspect to it, though when based on cerebral notions such as fairness, justice and interdependence, it may be considered rational in nature and its application understood as an activity based on sound judgment. There is also an aspect of compassion which regards a quantitative dimension, such that individual's compassion is often given a property of "depth," "vigour," or "passion." The etymology of "compassion" is Latin, meaning "co-suffering." More involved than simple empathy, compassion commonly gives rise to an active desire to alleviate another's suffering.[2]

Compassion is often, though not inevitably, the key component in what manifests in the social context as altruism.[citation needed] In ethical terms, the expressions down the ages of the so-called Golden Rule often embodies by implication the principle of compassion: Do to others what you would have them do to you.[3][original research?]

The English noun compassion, meaning to love together with, comes from Latin. Its prefix com- comes directly from com, an archaic version of the Latin preposition and affix cum (= with); the -passion segment is derived from passus, past participle of the deponent verb patior, patī, passus sum. Compassion is thus related in origin, form and meaning to the English noun patient (= one who suffers), from patiens, present participle of the same patior, and is akin to the Greek verb πάσχειν (= paskhein, to suffer) and to its cognate noun πάθος (= pathos).[4][5] Ranked a great virtue in numerous philosophies, compassion is considered in almost all the major religious traditions as among the greatest of virtues.

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