Possibility on selling unique TA on ES futures.

[ZedMan]

I expect to be mocked, insulted and called a fraudster on this one, but will give it a go just so I can say I tried.

I have worked out some unique TA on ES based on the MM algo behaviour that indicates ranges and PA direction. Making this common knowledge would result in a change or additional programming to make things difficult for retail traders; as can be seen with some hostile PA over the last few years.

So I can learn to trade this myself and build up my account, or explore the possibility of sharing this with only one other trader or company for a quick return on the extensive time invested to work it out. I would base a high price on this information due to the potential for them to leak it or make it public, which would ruin my current advantage due to a lack of algo countermeasures, which is seen in trading other TA.

The challenge would be exchanging an idea for a high price without either party being potentially conned. I would expect a slow release of information, trusts holding money, lawyers and contracts. Surely this has been done before.

I can't go into details on what I have developed, as it could be reversed engineered but as I wrote above, a minor and rough description is how the MM algos move the price around over time, such as two lines or levels that are set and depending on the market, these become targets.

Thoughts, offers or ridicule is all welcome.

 

[Bugsy]

Well since you're telling us how awesome you are, and you're from the internet, then it must be true. You even have your one post worth of credibility to lean on.

You have zero trade history to share with anyone who took you up on the offer, just your word, which is worth nothing. There's plenty of price action gurus already out there. What are you bringing that they haven't already?

Why not hit up family and friends to stake you rather than complete strangers on a trading site with an account that has a single post history? Maybe you actually do have a system.

I trade price action on the ES. If you're system actually works just save up a couple of grand and trade micro eminis on the ES and you can build up your roll fairly quickly. If you're not willing to put your own skin in the game why would anyone else trust your system?

 

[thehung111]

Did you backtest? What are the sample size , winning percentage , % return, standard deviatiom and max drawdown? Or it is just an idea in your head

 

[fan27]

I expect to be mocked, insulted and called a fraudster on this one, but will give it a go just so I can say I tried.

I have worked out some unique TA on ES based on the MM algo behaviour that indicates ranges and PA direction. Making this common knowledge would result in a change or additional programming to make things difficult for retail traders; as can be seen with some hostile PA over the last few years.

So I can learn to trade this myself and build up my account, or explore the possibility of sharing this with only one other trader or company for a quick return on the extensive time invested to work it out. I would base a high price on this information due to the potential for them to leak it or make it public, which would ruin my current advantage due to a lack of algo countermeasures, which is seen in trading other TA.

The challenge would be exchanging an idea for a high price without either party being potentially conned. I would expect a slow release of information, trusts holding money, lawyers and contracts. Surely this has been done before.

I can't go into details on what I have developed, as it could be reversed engineered but as I wrote above, a minor and rough description is how the MM algos move the price around over time, such as two lines or levels that are set and depending on the market, these become targets.

Thoughts, offers or ridicule is all welcome.

Until you can demonstrate a live money track record, you only have a theory, and theories are a dime a dozen in this business.

 

[traider]

I expect to be mocked, insulted and called a fraudster on this one, but will give it a go just so I can say I tried.

I have worked out some unique TA on ES based on the MM algo behaviour that indicates ranges and PA direction. Making this common knowledge would result in a change or additional programming to make things difficult for retail traders; as can be seen with some hostile PA over the last few years.

So I can learn to trade this myself and build up my account, or explore the possibility of sharing this with only one other trader or company for a quick return on the extensive time invested to work it out. I would base a high price on this information due to the potential for them to leak it or make it public, which would ruin my current advantage due to a lack of algo countermeasures, which is seen in trading other TA.

The challenge would be exchanging an idea for a high price without either party being potentially conned. I would expect a slow release of information, trusts holding money, lawyers and contracts. Surely this has been done before.

I can't go into details on what I have developed, as it could be reversed engineered but as I wrote above, a minor and rough description is how the MM algos move the price around over time, such as two lines or levels that are set and depending on the market, these become targets.

Thoughts, offers or ridicule is all welcome.

How long is your prediction horizon? If your holding time is short then you need more than a predictive algo as other factors will affect your profitability

 

[themickey]

If you sat at a table with 1000 other traders, do you think your system will beat all of them?
You're basically saying your system is unique, have you seen the skill of the competitors?

 

[ajacobson]

If your representation is genuine - find a backer who already manages traders or trader groups. Sydney and Singapore have tons. HK used to be a great location to find them, but much of the trading talent there is moving to Singapore. They'll need to be sold on you - people don't generally buy systems - they buy talent.

 

[ZedMan]

If your representation is genuine - find a backer who already manages traders or trader groups. Sydney and Singapore have tons. HK used to be a great location to find them, but much of the trading talent there is moving to Singapore. They'll need to be sold on you - people don't generally buy systems - they buy talent.

Thanks for this. Assume I know nothing or noone, how do I find these groups or people?

 

[Laissez Faire]

So I can learn to trade this myself and build up my account, or explore the possibility of sharing this with only one other trader or company for a quick return on the extensive time invested to work it out. I would base a high price on this information due to the potential for them to leak it or make it public, which would ruin my current advantage due to a lack of algo countermeasures, which is seen in trading other TA.

Without going into great detail, surely you can tell the expected daily frequency / profit targets? I.e., are you attempting to capture a few of the larger daily swings or is this a scalping method taking out a few ticks per trade? Or something in between?

I'd say if you've developed something as good as you suggest and which you have confidence in - there's virtually zero reason to sell it to anyone.

Stake a small account and start compounding it adding x contracts by x amount of increase in the account. Just the time it would take to find someone for a partnership should have your small account in the stratosphere by then.

 

[maxinger]

I expect to be mocked, insulted and called a fraudster on this one, but will give it a go just so I can say I tried.

I have worked out some unique TA on ES based on the MM algo behaviour that indicates ranges and PA direction. Making this common knowledge would result in a change or additional programming to make things difficult for retail traders; as can be seen with some hostile PA over the last few years.

So I can learn to trade this myself and build up my account, or explore the possibility of sharing this with only one other trader or company for a quick return on the extensive time invested to work it out. I would base a high price on this information due to the potential for them to leak it or make it public, which would ruin my current advantage due to a lack of algo countermeasures, which is seen in trading other TA.

The challenge would be exchanging an idea for a high price without either party being potentially conned. I would expect a slow release of information, trusts holding money, lawyers and contracts. Surely this has been done before.

I can't go into details on what I have developed, as it could be reversed engineered but as I wrote above, a minor and rough description is how the MM algos move the price around over time, such as two lines or levels that are set and depending on the market, these become targets.

Thoughts, offers or ridicule is all welcome.

No comment, no ridicule as your writeup is too generic / general /
too wishy-washy / lacks details