Possibility on selling unique TA on ES futures.

[wmwmw]

I expect to be mocked, insulted and called a fraudster on this one, but will give it a go just so I can say I tried.

I have worked out some unique TA on ES based on the MM algo behaviour that indicates ranges and PA direction. Making this common knowledge would result in a change or additional programming to make things difficult for retail traders; as can be seen with some hostile PA over the last few years.

So I can learn to trade this myself and build up my account, or explore the possibility of sharing this with only one other trader or company for a quick return on the extensive time invested to work it out. I would base a high price on this information due to the potential for them to leak it or make it public, which would ruin my current advantage due to a lack of algo countermeasures, which is seen in trading other TA.

The challenge would be exchanging an idea for a high price without either party being potentially conned. I would expect a slow release of information, trusts holding money, lawyers and contracts. Surely this has been done before.

I can't go into details on what I have developed, as it could be reversed engineered but as I wrote above, a minor and rough description is how the MM algos move the price around over time, such as two lines or levels that are set and depending on the market, these become targets.

Thoughts, offers or ridicule is all welcome.

Pass a challenge at a prop firm and get their funding.
Don't tell me you don't have one hundred bucks.
If your edge is real, you can get funding in 10 days.

 

[notagain]

What could go what go wrong when it comes to money?

 

[SunTrader]

I expect to be mocked, insulted and called a fraudster on this one, but will give it a go just so I can say I tried.
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Thoughts, offers or ridicule is all welcome.

That.

But admittedly we've all thought at one time or another we found the {trumpets blare} holy grail.

 

[wrbtrader]

No comment, no ridicule as your writeup is too generic / general /
too wishy-washy / lacks details

First, this is not a TA thread... it's more towards hook-up, chit chat or maybe funding.

Secondly, never share the specific details at an anonymous forum (anonymous users) nor market it especially at a place like ET...too many disingenuous people here want the specific details for his MM Algo when they have some bullshit agenda.

• Just as bad, he will never control his own threads here...it essentially belongs to Baron as soon as the specific details are posted.

Therefore, some asswipe new member can show up a few months from now and gain access to his specific details without his knowledge.

He's better off trading his small account and slowly growing it over the years before deciding to market his MM Algo because markets do in fact change. Thus, what he knows today, uses or shares...he'll most likely be using something different in tomorrow's markets although maybe similar as a way to adapt to the changed market conditions.

wrbtrader

 

[Overnight]

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So I can learn to trade this myself and build up my account, or explore the possibility of sharing this with only one other trader or company for a quick return on the extensive time invested to work it out. I would base a high price on this information due to the potential for them to leak it or make it public, which would ruin my current advantage due to a lack of algo countermeasures, which is seen in trading other TA.

The challenge would be exchanging an idea for a high price without either party being potentially conned. I would expect a slow release of information, trusts holding money, lawyers and contracts. Surely this has been done before.
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So your new system will work fine with one other person, but if a second outside person is involved, it would fail? NOTHING generates a quick return when it is hidden in the shadows...If it does, it is illegal. Doesn't pass the sniff test. Buh bye scammer! Next!

 

[SunTrader]

ZedMan being from - down under - should be rising soon enough. Be surprised if we see a 3rd post anytime soon.

 

[ZedMan]

ZedMan being from - down under - should be rising soon enough. Be surprised if we see a 3rd post anytime soon.

Interesting responses. TA is not a trading system, it is just an insight into price movement over time, with the skill of the trader using this for benefit.

Many think TA is shit, others pick patterns to use, I have immersed myself into it and have a perspective that is different to most. I was curious to see if an 'observation of advantage' may have a value, but it appears that in a world of delusion and fraud, anything genuine is drowned out by background noise.

So my best option is to build my skill as a trader and keep things to myself.

Thanks for the replies.

 

[Overnight]

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So my best option is to build my skill as a trader and keep things to myself.
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^^^^^^ This. You're welcome.

 

[maxinger]

Interesting responses. TA is not a trading system, it is just an insight into price movement over time, with the skill of the trader using this for benefit.

Many think TA is shit, others pick patterns to use, I have immersed myself into it and have a perspective that is different to most. I was curious to see if an 'observation of advantage' may have a value, but it appears that in a world of delusion and fraud, anything genuine is drowned out by background noise.

So my best option is to build my skill as a trader and keep things to myself.

Thanks for the replies.

Please keep everything to yourself.

your writeup is too wishy-washy.

 

[SunTrader]

Interesting responses. TA is not a trading system, it is just an insight into price movement over time, with the skill of the trader using this for benefit.

Many think TA is shit, others pick patterns to use, I have immersed myself into it and have a perspective that is different to most. I was curious to see if an 'observation of advantage' may have a value, but it appears that in a world of delusion and fraud, anything genuine is drowned out by background noise.

So my best option is to build my skill as a trader and keep things to myself.

Thanks for the replies.

LOL TA is whatever one makes of it.

But you're being coy is cute, for lack of a better word.

Naive also if you believe any of us, who have a clue, want to get a hold of (or as you put it reverse engineer) what you have come up with. Good luck with whatever that is.

Markets have a way of discovering and negating all that is thrown at it.

Stick around a bit.