POLL: Who is Jesus to You?

POLL: Who is Jesus to You?

  • He is a misquoted/misunderstood jewish rabbi

    Votes: 35 23.8%
  • He could be the promised messiah, but I don't believe he was God

    Votes: 3 2.0%
  • He is God/Creator and His sovereign grace is the singular means to my salvation

    Votes: 45 30.6%
  • He was a leader with a cause, like Ralph Nader or Jesse Jackson

    Votes: 4 2.7%
  • He was possibly deranged, like Charles Manson or Jim Jones

    Votes: 7 4.8%
  • He was an influential teacher, similar to Gandhi

    Votes: 16 10.9%
  • He is a prophet of God, similar to Ezekiel or Mohammad

    Votes: 8 5.4%
  • Following his example & doing good works is the singular means to my salvation

    Votes: 2 1.4%
  • He probably never existed

    Votes: 12 8.2%
  • Something else

    Votes: 15 10.2%

  • Total voters
    147
Quote from I am...:

Speaking of mattresses...
After we got all 66 sacred books into most of the hotel rooms,
it turned out that people were only interested in reading the "Song of Solomon".
Eventually we were busted on possession with intent to distribute marital aids to rooms within Jericho county without a Certificate of Concubancy.

Jesus:D

Here is another good one. There is a person on the internet, who thinks he is the Son of God and Jesus.

And he hasn't been committed yet. Maybe Charles Manson needs a cellmate :D
 
Rcan:
>as obviously being an alias does the same for you.

I love this whole "alias" think Rcan keeps falling back on when he's got nothing else.

Like "rcanfield" is actually his/her legal name rather than an "alias" of some sort. I mean I use my actually initials (JB) to sign off, but even that is an "alias".

JB
 
Quote from rcanfiel:

Quote from I am...:

This is Paul's view.


I suspect that your words as Jesus would generally be rejected by about 99.99999999% of the population, if they had to be honest...

Well like you said, the gate is small.
Like I said, the road is narrow.

Paul wanted to widen the road and make it more popular.
But that road leads to Paul.
Paul's gospel.
Pauline Christianity.
Paul radio stations.

Paul wanted a bodily resurrection.
This fact alone completely disqualifies his viewpoints,
and messes up his theology,
and exposes him as an interloper.

Any theology that divides the Son of God into
saved vs condemned is certifiably schizophrenic.
You misunderstand God's patience,
the function of time,
and the journey of the individual soul concept.

Jesus
 
Quote from cmaxb:

I didn't say fantasy is bad. As long as you see it for what it is. The world is a very depressing place. We are depressed ourselves. We need promises. Something that gives us hope. I see much of your philosophy is Platonic. You make your own reality. If you change your perceptive organs, you will change your reality. I'm afraid it is not that simple. But we all need comfort. There is another way, which examines how we raise children. How we ruin them.

Yes, I appreciated Plato's parable of the "Cave".
The concept of individual souls has been reinforced
by eons of repetition over time.
Likewise, the idea of the world as real and solid has been
hypnotically induced by relentless psychololgical suggestion.
So the dispelling of this mind-trick may not come overnight.
Everyone is free to leave the cave, but for mental blocks.

Let us not underestimate the power of the mind.
Hypnotists are able to blind the eyes to the presence of
certain objects in the room.
This shows that it is not the eyeballs which see,
but rather the filters set up in the mind.
The "reality" of the world is seen through a powerful mind-filter.
When the hypnotic spell is dispelled,
it is clearly seen that the mind-filters blinded the vision of reality.
You can take comfort in the fact that what the eyeballs see is not real,
and the real Self cannot be harmed.

Children symbolize a mind that is already "ruined",
whose self-awareness has been severely restricted
by the imposition of the concept of guilt.
Children represent aspects of mind which have denied reality,
forcing the experience of an alternative existence.
Childbirth, you have to admit, is rather strange.
What, but a dream, gives birth to strange circumstances?

The problem is simply...
People underestimate the power of mind...their own minds.
They have long forgotten what the mind is capable of.
Bodily existence is an outpicturing of mental processes.
Everything in form is a symbol of subconscious beliefs.

It's simple, but seriously resisted by minds so long trapped in flesh.
Identifying as flesh weakens the mind, that is, the awareness of it's power.
It's power is constant and unmitigated at all times.
It entraps itself when true and false are held in mind without distinction.

Jesus
 
Quote from I am...:

Well like you said, the gate is small.
Like I said, the road is narrow.

Paul wanted to widen the road and make it more popular.
But that road leads to Paul.
Paul's gospel.
Pauline Christianity.
Paul radio stations.

Paul wanted a bodily resurrection.
This fact alone completely disqualifies his viewpoints,
and messes up his theology,
and exposes him as an interloper.

Any theology that divides the Son of God into
saved vs condemned is certifiably schizophrenic.
You misunderstand God's patience,
the function of time,
and the journey of the individual soul concept.

Jesus

I understand it perfectly well. But I think scripture has about a 2500+ year head start on you. It has a lot more traction than a divine imposter.

And I didn't see where you demonstrated the evidence that you were Jesus.

Thiose 3 words on my board please?
 
Quote from I am...:

Children symbolize a mind that is already "ruined",
whose self-awareness has been severely restricted
by the imposition of the concept of guilt.

I agree there (though, they are "ruined" by us).
 
Quote from rcanfiel:

I understand it perfectly well. But I think scripture has about a 2500+ year head start on you. It has a lot more traction than a divine imposter.


The world had a head-start too.
Six thousand, a million, a billion.
Doesn't matter.
I came along and said it does not exist.
Can it be written into existence?
Never.
But while you believe it, it is real for you.
You believe it because you want it.
What you want, God will not take from you.

God will wait until you realize you do not want it.
Six thousand, a million, a billion
Doesn't matter.
I came along and said it will all pass away.
The lost sheep will be gathered together according to the laws of mind.
These are God's laws.
You will believe them,
and what you do not want will fade away.

Jesus
 
Quote from I am...:

The world had a head-start too.
Six thousand, a million, a billion.
Doesn't matter.
I came along and said it does not exist.

Again, I didn't see where you demonstrated the evidence that you were Jesus? All the prose and gum-klapping in the world is pointless if you continue to delude yourself.

Can it be written into existence?
Never.
But while you believe it, it is real for you.
You believe it because you want it.
What you want, God will not take from you.

It has nothing to do with what anyone believes. Human beliefs are irrelevant. People used to believe many things that have proven to be incorrect.

Many people here state beliefs founded on nothing more than their own horrendously limited view. "I don't (or do) believe in God. Therefore that settles it"

Truthfully, it has no value, relevant, or meaning.



God will wait until you realize you do not want it.
Six thousand, a million, a billion
Doesn't matter.
I came along and said it will all pass away.

Those 3 words on my board please? You didn't come anywere. You didn't do anything except prove you are pitiful.
 
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