Absolutely big words and eloquent speech mean nothing. I have read articles from so many academics and journalists who make terrible arguments while writing eloquently. But I disagree that Darkhorse was offering nothing but sophistry.
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Absolutely big words and eloquent speech mean nothing. I have read articles from so many academics and journalists who make terrible arguments while writing eloquently. But I disagree that Darkhorse was offering nothing but sophistry.
Quote from marketsurfer:
science has enabled man to improve the quality of his inner spiritual life by providing man THE TIME to work on his spiritual side. because of science and progress, the common man, no longer has to stress out and fight for food ( an example ). almost everyone now has access to spiritual information, instead of just the scribes and elites as in the past due to science. science gives us FREE TIME to study spiritual pursuits that were once only the domain of the elite. science allow us to be educated so that we can CHOOSE the spiritual path instead of being forced fed dogma. science enables man to feed his soul instead of being obsessed with feeding his body.
best,
surfer
Science has given man more free time, true.
Science has extended the lifespan, true.
Science has given man more physical comfort, true.
Science has allowed more time time for study. true.
Yet spirituality doesn't depend on physical comfort, time, lifespan, or the kind of learning that comes from reading books.
Love of God and spirituality can be practiced by the most illiterate. Love of God and spirituality can be practiced while engaged in work or any other activity. Love of God and spirituality doesn't require good health, or physical comfort. Physical luxury has nothing to do with love of God or spirituality.
Spiritual practice is a function of the heart, not the intellectual mind.
While our society gives us that time, is spirituality really where people are spending their "free time?"
As I mentioned previously, the rise in the need for anti-depressants and other mind altering drugs, the abuse of alcohol, the divorce rate, etc. all indicate that our society is not becoming more spiritually fulfilled.
The rise in materialism and the love of and attachment to materialism is opposite to the values of spirituality and inner happiness, which is not dependent on the physical sides of life.
I think a better way of putting it would be to say an extremely finite being juding a theoretically objective and perfect being and/or logic system.
Quote from axeman:
You are so completely clueless, and your argument so
obviously flawed, I wonder why I even take a minute
to reply.
You seem incapable of learning, but I will state once again,
in hopes that this will sink into your head for once:
I do NOT believe faith is flawed simply because it did NOT work for me.
OK?!?!?! Comprende??? This is not a sour grapes issue.
You like to believe this because it makes you feel better or something.
The REASON I think your faith is a complete joke is NOT because
it didnt work for me 777, but because you have been
CONSISTENTLY incapable of providing even the most
miniscule shred of evidence that your faith works at all,
OUTSIDE of your own imagination.
It simply is not testable, falsifiable or verifiable by ANYONE
outside of yourself, and therefore no better than
a childhood invisible friend.
So stop pretending already that this has ANYTHING to do
with my failure with faith. It simply is not relevant.
Im sure you will go right back to your favorite fallacy of
poisoning the well, and will continue to falsely claim that I simply
believe faith is bullshit because it didnt work for ME. LOL
( As if you can read my mind! LOL )
But then again... I dont expect much from you anyway
There...enough time wasted with silly theists.
Time for some TV and hitting the sack.
Cutten is doing such a wonderful job of slaughtering the
theists here, I am no longer needed.
Bye bye 777. Sleep tight with your magical power fantasies
and your invisible friends
peace
axeman
It is obvious to anyone that if faith did work for you, you would not be an atheist.
You are a failed theist, and your perspective flows from that point of view.
Your consistent use of verbal abuse is enough for any reasonable person to see the unresolved issues you have with your failure in faith.
I have always said unicorns exist. Are you now saying I have to PROVE it. Geeeeez, this is gonna be tough.
Picture of 777 asking his invisible friend for help in this debate 
Get a clue 777. If faith DID work for me, it still would not
prove that god exists. I just would have an invisible
friend like YOU do! LMAOOOO
The main difference between us is the fact that I ditched
my invisible friend along with santa and the easter bunny
peace
axeman
Get a clue 777. If faith DID work for me, it still would not
prove that god exists. I just would have an invisible
friend like YOU do! LMAOOOO
The main difference between us is the fact that I ditched
my invisible friend along with santa and the easter bunny
peace
axeman
Quote from marketsurfer:
axeman,
a wager---- i bet you $50.00 that within 20 years you become a theist of some sort. what do you say ??
surfer
That sure as hell is a "friendly" wager. In 10 years, with the inevitable inflation that is coming our way due to our policies, that $50 will maybe buy a coke and a smile.
Quote from Gordon Gekko:
i don't know about you guys, but i'm not wasting my time with this turkey. thanksgiving is over.
Quote from axeman:
Picture of 777 asking his invisible friend for help in this debate
Get a clue 777. If faith DID work for me, it still would not
prove that god exists. I just would have an invisible
friend like YOU do! LMAOOOO
The main difference between us is the fact that I ditched
my invisible friend along with santa and the easter bunny
peace
axeman
Explain where the need to ridicule is not poisoning the well.
Verbal abuse, of the type you are engaged in is a common response of someone who cannot reason and communicate dispassionately.
More evidence of your failed theism and the baggage yet unresolved.
Arent you even capable of doing a google search?
Go find the definition of Poisoning the well, and catch a clue.
A joke is NOT poisoning the well.
But here is yet another example:
More evidence of your failed theism and the baggage yet
Now THAT is poisoning the well, that is, if you even
knew what the definition of that fallacy was, which you
obviously dont
peace
axeman
Go find the definition of Poisoning the well, and catch a clue.
A joke is NOT poisoning the well.
But here is yet another example:
More evidence of your failed theism and the baggage yet
Now THAT is poisoning the well, that is, if you even
knew what the definition of that fallacy was, which you
obviously dont
peace
axeman