I don't want to defend Wild, I think he doesn't need me, but he is probably the brightest person of this forum and Fairplay is not bad at all. I think you and all the war mongers should learn from them...
TF
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I don't want to defend Wild, I think he doesn't need me, but he is probably the brightest person of this forum and Fairplay is not bad at all. I think you and all the war mongers should learn from them...
TF
America declared its independence from Britain, and fought a war to secure that independence.
Uniforms of the Hessen-Kassel troops in North America during the American War of Independence
In 1776, Hessen-Kassel sent 4 grenadier battalions, 15 battalions of infantry, 2 companies of jaegers, and 3 companies of artillery to North America as part of the subsidy treaty with Great Britain. All except the Jaegers wore blue coats, distinguished by cuffs, collar, and lapels, (called the "facings") and vests and britches (called "small clothes") of differing colors. The Jaegers wore green coats faced red, a traditional color combination for Jaegers in Germany.
The links below show the uniforms of all the regiments immediately upon their return to Hesse in 1783-1784. Also included are brief highlights of each regiment's service in North America.
As each regiment/battalion was known by the name of its Colonel-in-Chief, and some of these changed during the course of the war, all the names the units were known by are listed.
http://www.vondonop.org/hkuniforms.html
Uniforms of the Hessen-Kassel troops in North America during the American War of Independence
In 1776, Hessen-Kassel sent 4 grenadier battalions, 15 battalions of infantry, 2 companies of jaegers, and 3 companies of artillery to North America as part of the subsidy treaty with Great Britain. All except the Jaegers wore blue coats, distinguished by cuffs, collar, and lapels, (called the "facings") and vests and britches (called "small clothes") of differing colors. The Jaegers wore green coats faced red, a traditional color combination for Jaegers in Germany.
The links below show the uniforms of all the regiments immediately upon their return to Hesse in 1783-1784. Also included are brief highlights of each regiment's service in North America.
As each regiment/battalion was known by the name of its Colonel-in-Chief, and some of these changed during the course of the war, all the names the units were known by are listed.
http://www.vondonop.org/hkuniforms.html
I'm sorry wild, but a website that self-describes itself as:
"Welcome to the Infanterie Regiment von Donop Web Site. Infanterie Regiment von Donop (or just 'IR von Donop' for short) is a living history re-enactment group that recreates the life and times of typical Hessian soldiers that served in North America during the American War of Independence (1776-1783)."
...is merely factually historical, not the lunatic fringe you've been quoting from. Sorry, no points for this one and if you keep using normal sites, I'm afraid we'll have to start deducting points.
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Isn't this the old story of supply and demand in its purest form? Where there is money to be made, somebody will make money.
I am glad for you, Mr Wild, that this is not happening in Germany, but in Ireland, from where so many Americans derived their ancestors! Otherwise I already see all those upright freedom fighters hounding you.
Three cheers to the Irish. Unfortunately, the IRA is not fighting on the proper side. They could do so much better work instead of killing protestants
Do I really live in the USA?
Funny question.
Are there groups of people, splinter groups who are hateful?
Yes, it is allowed under the protection of our constitution to have "feelings" of hate.
It is allowed to have marches and meetings in which hate is celebrated.
It is not allowed that they act on that hate in a manner that breaks the law, and if they do they are punished accordingly.
I would much rather have those who suffer from hating others be able to have their groups openly as a means to express their feelings, than have them underground festering and gaining strength. Having the groups openly organize and act allows the proper authorities to monitor their behavior, and respond accordingly if their feeling turn to destructive actions.
It is when the KKK and other hate mongers march and express themselves publicly, that other Americans can see by contrast the stupidity of their belief systems compared to a normal and reasonable doctrine of living.
It is a proven fact psychologically that allowing a child to throw his tantrum on the floor, as long as he is not violent against others, is healthier than stopping him from doing so and trying to control his rage and anger.
Let them get it out of their system, as trying to control or stop the "feelings" of anger, frustration, bigotry, hatred, religious intolerance doesn't work.
If you allow a child to throw his tantrum, yet don't respond with fear or control, just allow the process to take place by observing with compassion and understanding, the child gets it out of his system and normalizes their emotional state.
It is when you stifle their feelings that problems begin and grow.
I wish there was a way to force people to be loving, understanding, tolerant, accepting, etc., but there is no way to do that.
I favor allowing them to express their feelings, as long as it is done within the confines of the law.
It is better in my opinion to have to listen to their bile in the short run, than to try to silence it in the long run.
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You're a Pasteaholic.
well ... what are you then ?
Quote from max401:
Hah! You're forgetting my own vote! I find that some kind soul has already deemed me "normal." So perhaps I'll keep my vote for a tiebreaker. Gotta wonder how many votes are RS7 aliases though; he has at least two; by his own admission.
In any event, after finding himself trapped in his usual tall tales, ol' RS7 was whining to Baron in late October. Baron solicited my viewpoint and this is my response:
(I might add that there are now quite a few other "RS7 - Legend in My Own Mind" claims made since then.)
10-28-2002
Baron,
Thank you for willing to take an objective viewpoint and I apologize if my actions cause you to waste your valuable time on this petty matter, although I'm sure RS7 considers this situation to be of some massive significance. It should be noted that most of my interaction with this individual is limited to the less topical "Chit Chat" forum.
The veracity of any poster would not be large an issue to anyone in the normal course of events, God knows how many inaccurate scribblings and outright lies occur on the internet. RS7 constantly weaves his personal life into his commentary. He seems to be yet another of those tedious posterâs whose favorite words are âIâ and âme.â
However, in RS7's case, his constant writing about himself and his many, many accomplishments have worn thin. For example:
"Dated a famous movie star before she was a star."
"Played guitar at the Fillmore East with the Allman Bros."
"Introduced Greg Allman to Cher"
The coup de grace is a sore subject with me. I find it difficult to tolerate âcombatâ stories that on their very face cannot be believed. In his own words, this is RS7's,:
"I was involved in a criminal endeavor on behalf of our Department of State. Hell, we were just tourists with cameras. And weapons for hunting. And fine press credentials too. I was technically NOT sent there to be "in combat" and even though I was shot, I never knew by whom. I have a scar, but don't know who pulled the trigger. I was captured and held prisoner along with 4 others. We were kept in a "tiger cage" (covered hole in the ground), where we froze at night and cooked during the day. Each day of that was far worse than a month in any american prison, I assure you. Our "guards" were 15 or 16 year old boys with weapons they did not know how to use. I myself did not look down and see my leg missing. But I did see it happen to someone that was no more than 20 yards from me. And I did see the look on his face. I see it still."
Is this story believable? I think not. And one must draw the distinction between the âI made this much money in the market...â proclamation and the above, which I believe cuts into a sacred area of any true patriot of this country.
So, have I âbashedâ RS7 on this issue? Well, I certainly have challenged his veracity. Frankly, I find it compelling to inquire when he makes other gaffes that donât match his previous declarations of fame. In his last episode, a few questions to him and it turns out, as near as I can tell, essentially he doesnât quite remember what year he graduated from college.
The other bothersome item for me is that of multiple aliases. I don't know whether you can check IP addresses and granted that doesn't necessarily prove anything, but I am suspicious of "RS7" and "outlaw" as being one and the same. RS7's excuse for having been caught red handed using the wrong alias to post with is that âoutlawâ was at his house using his computer one evening and happened to leave it signed on to the âoutlawâ account unbeknownst to RS7. Certainly possible, but highly unlikely considering the posting times at the same time of day for each, the incredulous background story he tells which in no way matches the content of the posts between these two and the fact that the âoutlawâ ID never posted again after the gaffe.
Baron, I guess the bottom line is that I think RS7 is a professional liar and consequently I think that in the course of events a certain amount of inquiry is permissible. You will note that generally that I do not use diminutives, name calling or severely profane language in my posts, unlike RS7. Surprisingly, he started a thread which condemns those very actions. I responded with several of his quotes reflecting his own profanity, it got clipped, however. Yes, Iâm sure that I have crossed the line in a post or three, but generally I state my conclusions as strictly my own opinion.
Part of the message traffic with RS7 involves his many meanderings and deviations to my simple inquiries. His vehement replies usually denouncing my suggestions that something is amiss, simply require another response. RS7 claims that I am obsessed with "bashing" him, to you and most certainly in his posts. When a liar is trapped by the very trail of facts he has left behind for all to see, that is about the only offense he has.
A final observation: Don Bright takes a tremendous amount of abuse on these pages, like the proverbial duck, it runs right off his back and he singlehandedly takes on any and all comers. Should RS7 be any different?
Max401
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11787&perpage=6&pagenumber=3
You're a Pasteaholic.
well ... what are you then ?
Quote from max401:
Hah! You're forgetting my own vote! I find that some kind soul has already deemed me "normal." So perhaps I'll keep my vote for a tiebreaker. Gotta wonder how many votes are RS7 aliases though; he has at least two; by his own admission.
In any event, after finding himself trapped in his usual tall tales, ol' RS7 was whining to Baron in late October. Baron solicited my viewpoint and this is my response:
(I might add that there are now quite a few other "RS7 - Legend in My Own Mind" claims made since then.)
10-28-2002
Baron,
Thank you for willing to take an objective viewpoint and I apologize if my actions cause you to waste your valuable time on this petty matter, although I'm sure RS7 considers this situation to be of some massive significance. It should be noted that most of my interaction with this individual is limited to the less topical "Chit Chat" forum.
The veracity of any poster would not be large an issue to anyone in the normal course of events, God knows how many inaccurate scribblings and outright lies occur on the internet. RS7 constantly weaves his personal life into his commentary. He seems to be yet another of those tedious posterâs whose favorite words are âIâ and âme.â
However, in RS7's case, his constant writing about himself and his many, many accomplishments have worn thin. For example:
"Dated a famous movie star before she was a star."
"Played guitar at the Fillmore East with the Allman Bros."
"Introduced Greg Allman to Cher"
The coup de grace is a sore subject with me. I find it difficult to tolerate âcombatâ stories that on their very face cannot be believed. In his own words, this is RS7's,:
"I was involved in a criminal endeavor on behalf of our Department of State. Hell, we were just tourists with cameras. And weapons for hunting. And fine press credentials too. I was technically NOT sent there to be "in combat" and even though I was shot, I never knew by whom. I have a scar, but don't know who pulled the trigger. I was captured and held prisoner along with 4 others. We were kept in a "tiger cage" (covered hole in the ground), where we froze at night and cooked during the day. Each day of that was far worse than a month in any american prison, I assure you. Our "guards" were 15 or 16 year old boys with weapons they did not know how to use. I myself did not look down and see my leg missing. But I did see it happen to someone that was no more than 20 yards from me. And I did see the look on his face. I see it still."
Is this story believable? I think not. And one must draw the distinction between the âI made this much money in the market...â proclamation and the above, which I believe cuts into a sacred area of any true patriot of this country.
So, have I âbashedâ RS7 on this issue? Well, I certainly have challenged his veracity. Frankly, I find it compelling to inquire when he makes other gaffes that donât match his previous declarations of fame. In his last episode, a few questions to him and it turns out, as near as I can tell, essentially he doesnât quite remember what year he graduated from college.
The other bothersome item for me is that of multiple aliases. I don't know whether you can check IP addresses and granted that doesn't necessarily prove anything, but I am suspicious of "RS7" and "outlaw" as being one and the same. RS7's excuse for having been caught red handed using the wrong alias to post with is that âoutlawâ was at his house using his computer one evening and happened to leave it signed on to the âoutlawâ account unbeknownst to RS7. Certainly possible, but highly unlikely considering the posting times at the same time of day for each, the incredulous background story he tells which in no way matches the content of the posts between these two and the fact that the âoutlawâ ID never posted again after the gaffe.
Baron, I guess the bottom line is that I think RS7 is a professional liar and consequently I think that in the course of events a certain amount of inquiry is permissible. You will note that generally that I do not use diminutives, name calling or severely profane language in my posts, unlike RS7. Surprisingly, he started a thread which condemns those very actions. I responded with several of his quotes reflecting his own profanity, it got clipped, however. Yes, Iâm sure that I have crossed the line in a post or three, but generally I state my conclusions as strictly my own opinion.
Part of the message traffic with RS7 involves his many meanderings and deviations to my simple inquiries. His vehement replies usually denouncing my suggestions that something is amiss, simply require another response. RS7 claims that I am obsessed with "bashing" him, to you and most certainly in his posts. When a liar is trapped by the very trail of facts he has left behind for all to see, that is about the only offense he has.
A final observation: Don Bright takes a tremendous amount of abuse on these pages, like the proverbial duck, it runs right off his back and he singlehandedly takes on any and all comers. Should RS7 be any different?
Max401
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11787&perpage=6&pagenumber=3
I can't say I'm suprised by your now obvious determination to try and agitate, but what was the point of that post?
Unless what you read is selectively turned over in your mind to mean the opposite of what is written, how do you conclude that it is I who called Wild a Nazi?
And just why would you do that?? Let's see...
Is it because you only want to follow and believe one slant on any point of view that is different from your own and that a differing opinion is always automatically wrong? Then you have severe case of tunnel vision.
Your words "So you call Wild a Nazi"...now just where do I do that?. I repeat ....Wild gives at the very least, tacit approval HIMSELF to being identified as a Nazi, he doesn't care that he tags himself as such.
Yet that gives you reason to say to me.... "you are certainly the Nazi." Are you purposely trying to say something stupid ? Is that how you like to make your point to people?
If your post was an attempt to divert focus off what was said then it has failed, if it was anything else then it was nothing but a limp and feeble effort to throw everything in the air and pick out stuff you can simply blame on America, Britain or the West.
Your approach is to argue (I am paraphrasing here) 'the Nazis were wrong but Americans are always wrong' a childish , ill-proportioned, cockeyed standpoint. If you want to argue against the things you accuse your opponents of, it is nonsensical to act in the same way as your accusation.
I think of America as a superior country in many ways and certainly superior to non democratic dictator states. But there can only be one country or one way of life that's always injust, according to you, and it's Western and or American and no other puts a foot wrong by which you are prepared to condemn with the same vigor.
To discuss a topic with you, wild or your cronies becomes impossible as your main agenda is always to denounce America no matter what and with the most bitter and twisted viewpoint you can find. Even to the stage where you can't think for yourselves but rely upon inaccurate and irrelevant floods of text from any extreme cranky website that fits your purpose.
You should find happiness with your new little friend Wild, like petulant adolescents in a dismal world of your own where confusion, peevishness and frustration reigns.