POLL: The first debate

Who was better at furthering their cause in the first Presidential debate?

  • Clinton

    Votes: 22 61.1%
  • Trump

    Votes: 14 38.9%

  • Total voters
    36
  • Poll closed .
One of the real concerns about Trump is probably that he might reverse, disrupt or disclose long term strategic plans that have bridged several administrations, involving both political parties.
 
I would vote for a fire hydrant over 95% of Congress too. And I would campaign for a fire hydrant over hiillary.

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Jem, I was willing to give him a chance to get his act together, hoping that he'd display some maturity and move away from his playground-bully crap. But he is just more of the same. Take him away from a teleprompter, and he reverts to his true self.

I don't have so much concern about him in the White House for domestic policy. Fortunately our constitution provides some checks and balances. And if we survived Bush (barely), we could probably survive Trump.

But the issue I cannot get around, and millions or others share my concern, is that he would be commander-in-chief.

See, I grew up in the military as the son of a bomber pilot. And I myself served time on an aircraft carrier chasing Russian subs. The strength and power of our military is beyond description.

We can't permit that to come under the control of a personality like Trump. He is too quick to anger and to attack his adversaries. He does not show good judgement under pressure.

So that is the single - and most important - strike against him. All other considerations take second place.

For me, if at this point it was a vote for Trump or a fire hydrant, I'd vote for the fire hydrant. I'd feel a lot safer.
 
I would vote for a fire hydrant over 95% of Congress too. And I would campaign for a fire hydrant over hiillary.

A nice find. Now if only it was registered in every state, it would probably be a big winner.
 
Reagan had been tested and tempered during his terms as Governor of California. Unfortunately, Trump has had no such experience, no such testing. He has never been in a position of service to anyone.

Domestically, he can be limited by the other branches of government and by our constitution.

But internationally and militarily, he would be a frightening risk as commander-in-chief of our armed forces. He has clear, documented tendencies to anger easily, to attack those who don't agree, and to fail to follow the advice of others. He is a loose cannon, and whatever good he might bring to the office, the huge risk of him as commander of our forces overwhelms all other considerations.

I see it as Trump bringing an end to U.S. participation in these basket case countries wars. It'll become the UN's and wannabees problems. Too costly, better off playing the money game (Trump's strong suit).
 
We can't permit that to come under the control of a personality like Trump. He is too quick to anger and to attack his adversaries. He does not show good judgement under pressure.

So that is the single - and most important - strike against him. All other considerations take second place.

For me, if at this point it was a vote for Trump or a fire hydrant, I'd vote for the fire hydrant. I'd feel a lot safer.

Trump is not an ideal choice but the idea he would start WW III in a fit of anger is far-fetched. Trump may use colorful or even careless language, but he is very measured when it comes to using the military or getting us mired in more quagmires. Hillary is the one who seems to want to confront the Russians everywhere. Superpowers should give each other plenty of elbow room, something Trump seems to understand. It's why the republican neo-con wing despises him so fervently.

Hillary's judgment has repeatedly been demonstrated to be terrible, whether it was in overthrowing Libya or lying about the Benghazi attacks or her cavalier disregard of security rules and the inevitable Clinton coverup.
 
Trump is not an ideal choice but the idea he would start WW III in a fit of anger is far-fetched. Trump may use colorful or even careless language, but he is very measured when it comes to using the military or getting us mired in more quagmires.

You, nor anyone else including his closest advisers, have any idea whatsoever how he would react to a confrontation. And you are underestimating the amount of damage that can be caused by an irrational person in control of our armed forces. The constitution has not provided for anyone to say 'No!' to the commander in chief.

I urge you to wise up and vote for the fire hydrant.

Note: The Arizona Republic, for the first time in history, endorses a democrat for president, asking "Whose hand do you want on the nuclear button?"

http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/editorial/2016/09/27/hillary-clinton-endorsement/91198668/
 
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voting for hillary is safer than voting for trump?
how the hell can you make that assessment
did you see what she did to the libya and the middle east.
She created ISiS, she armed terrorists.

Her judgement is far worse than a fire hydrants.
Plus what her sup ct will do for our constitutional rights is far gravely serious.
As we speak they are giving the internet away so we lose are freedom of speech to a large extent.


Trump is a guess. Hillary is assured destruction.

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The neocons have all turned to Hillary precisely because she'll give em the wars they want. And that they don't believe Trump will give them. So how is Trump worse?

So lindq is selling the goldwater mushroom cloud commercial. Trump just might go nuke and blow up the world. Nevertrumpers are left with that questionable assertion because how else can they sell their position? They can't very well tell the truth that Trump won't give them the wars they want.
 
You, nor anyone else including his closest advisers, have any idea whatsoever how he would react to a confrontation. And you are underestimating the amount of damage that can be caused by an irrational person in control of our armed forces. The constitution has not provided for anyone to say 'No!' to the commander in chief.

I urge you to wise up and vote for the fire hydrant.

Note: The Arizona Republic, for the first time in history, endorses a democrat for president, asking "Whose hand do you want on the nuclear button?"

http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/editorial/2016/09/27/hillary-clinton-endorsement/91198668/

For a person who think he's informed on the topic, were you aware Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, and ranking Democrats want a no-fly zone in Syria, enforced by America? So Russian jets are shot down by NATO?
 
voting for hillary is safer than voting for trump?
how the hell can you make that assessment
did you see what she did to the libya and the middle east.
She created ISiS, she armed terrorists.

Her judgement is far worse than a fire hydrants.
Plus what her sup ct will do for our constitutional rights is far gravely serious.
As we speak they are giving the internet away so we lose are freedom of speech to a large extent.


Trump is a guess. Hillary is assured destruction.

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Trump is not a guess. He's an ignorant asshole. Perfect for dumb righties like you that think Clinton created ISIS. That's Trump levels of stupidity.
 
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