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TreeFrogTrader said:
Sorry, lots of verbal diarrhea there and walking sideways like crab but I stand by my assertion 100% that you pissed and moaned about how the most important records about Kavanaugh were part of the bush presidential records and that they had not been released.

You were pressed by a couple posters to cite specific examples to support your statement about Kavanaugh's "crazy writings and opinions." And were unable to cite any but crabwalked sideways by trying to make the case that the good stuff was being withheld.

You recognize this quote below? Didn't think so. It's from your words. If you need to have me cite the specific source location for that I will do that, right before I put you back on ignore. Otherwise. Don't play that game with me.

"Many, if not nearly all of Kavanaugh's most absurd, and "endearing" opinions, a la manière de Rudy Giuliani, are most likely to have come while working in his ultra sycophantic role as a former White House step-and-fetch-it. These are the very records most interesting to the public; yet these are among the records being withheld!"
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Quote please to back up your post in which you said, "Even though you ... argued extensively that there was not enough on the record without getting into bush's presidential papers." If your going to make an extraordinary charge, wouldn't you agree you should back it up with something? Otherwise you could be credibly accused of fabrication.

I guess I should add here that there is plenty on the record to evaluate Kavanaugh's viewpoints regarding the imperial executive. You don't need the papers from the Bush period at all. Though what's known from those is rather "juicy'.
 
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piezoe said:
Quote please to back up your post in which you said, "Even though you ... argued extensively that there was not enough on the record without getting into bush's presidential papers." If your going to make an extraordinary charge, wouldn't you agree you should back it up with something? Otherwise you could be credibly accused of fabrication.
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On ignore for two months- again.
 
I don't know what happened. I had nothing to do with it. But somehow the quotes from the frog disappeared from all my posts, making them seem rather strange. I mean who is it exactly that I am responding to. Oh well. I guess he is working from St. Petersberg. :D In fact the frog has disappeared himself from the entire thread. Amazing. May he rest in peace. Maybe Baron "disappeared" him. If so, thank you Baron.
 
piezoe said:
I don't know what happened. I had nothing to do with it. But somehow the quotes from the frog disappeared from all my posts, making them seem rather strange. I mean who is it exactly that I am responding to. Oh well. I guess he is working from St. Petersberg. :D
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I've seen you talking to yourself for pages now....does about as much good too.
 
Here4money said:
I've seen you talking to yourself for pages now....does about as much good too.
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On my monitor until just a few minutes ago when frog said he was putting me on blessed ignore "for two months," quotes of his posts showed at the top of my posts. Then suddenly Frog disappeared from the entire thread. I don't think you can find the frog anywhere in the thread now. I don't know how he did that. I'm impressed. Do you think Baron had something to do with it? Actually I don't mind. It helped me organize my thoughts re Kavanaugh. But I pity anyone trying to read this thread. :D

Maybe there is a software glitch and my quotes of frog are just removed from all my posts retroactively making my posts seem rather strange. It would be better then, wouldn't it, to remove my posts in response to frog as well. This seems like some kind of a software glitch. Oh well, we have more important things to deal with.
 
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Here4money said:
I've seen you talking to yourself for pages now....does about as much good too.
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Not to worry. My lack of dialogue with idiots on ignore creates an opportunity for you to just paste another twenty-thirty links from the daily package you receive from Media Matters.

Yup, no thinking or talking required on your part. And you do the "no-thinking" part very well.
 
piezoe said:
On my monitor until just a few minutes ago when frog said he was putting me on blessed ignore "for two months," quotes of his posts showed at the top of my posts. Then suddenly Frog disappeared from the entire thread. I don't think you can find the frog anywhere in the thread now. I don't know how he did that. I'm impressed. Do you think Baron had something to do with it? Actually I don't mind. It helped me organize my thoughts re Kavanaugh. But I pity anyone trying to read this thread. :D
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apparently there's a "super-ignore" function....One of the guys here found it. They were not satisfied w/ignoring people, they wanted their opinions to themselves too, invisible to others. I couldn't be bothered, plus it cracks me up when I see them responding to me, while they're on ignore.
 
piehole,

you should learn to stop digging when you get in a hole. Why on earth would Kavanaugh urge Congress to enact a statute to defer any personal civil suits AND criminal investigations while the President is in office if he believed the President is "above the law" as you stated in a prior post? I

Does Brett Kavanaugh think the president is immune from criminal charges?
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This is what Kavanaugh wrote....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...from-criminal-charges/?utm_term=.c6740f983872

“With that in mind, it would be appropriate for Congress to enact a statute providing that any personal civil suits against presidents, like certain members of the military, be deferred while the President is in office. The result the Supreme Court reached in Clinton v. Jones — that presidents are not constitutionally entitled to deferral of civil suits — may well have been entirely correct; that is beyond the scope of this inquiry. But the Court in Jonesstated that Congress is free to provide a temporary deferral of civil suits while the President is in office. Congress may be wise to do so, just as it has done for certain members of the military. Deferral would allow the President to focus on the vital duties he was elected to perform.

“Congress should consider doing the same, moreover, with respect to criminal investigations and prosecutions of the President. In particular, Congress might consider a law exempting a President — while in office — from criminal prosecution and investigation, including from questioning by criminal prosecutors or defense counsel. Criminal investigations targeted at or revolving around a President are inevitably politicized by both their supporters and critics. As I have written before, ‘no Attorney General or special counsel will have the necessary credibility to avoid the inevitable charges that he is politically motivated — whether in favor of the President or against him, depending on the individual leading the investigation and its results.’ The indictment and trial of a sitting President, moreover, would cripple the federal government, rendering it unable to function with credibility in either the international or domestic arenas. Such an outcome would ill serve the public interest, especially in times of financial or national security crisis.”
 
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