Poll: Is the Trump White House circling the drain?

Is the Trump White House circling the drain?

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Glad you asked. Here is a very much abbreviated list.
1) Condoned* the separation of parents and children in Federal detention and the losing track of them. Then acting with indifference when courts demanded that the children be return to their parents.
2) Founded a Fraudulent "University" used to bilk hundreds from their money.
3) Set up a Fraudulent Foundation used to obtain tax advantaged money for personal expenditures, and publicly claimed the monies the Foundation spent were charitable contributions and took personal credit for these "contributions".
4) Repeatedly violated a key provision of the Constitution known as the "Emoluments Clause".
5) When U.S. agencies found that Russia had interfered with a U.S. election, he sided with Russia over his own country's intelligence and law enforcement agencies.
6) Drafted a false statement about the purpose of a meeting between his campaign staff and a Russian operative.
7) Created chaos among world trade markets by repeatedly announcing new tariffs, and then days or weeks later extensively modifying his position when shown the damage that would be done to American interests. Then claiming he is a great deal maker!
8) Expressed the opinion that cooperating with Federal prosecutors should be illegal.
9) Hiring foreign agents as his campaign chairman and his foreign affairs advisor.
10) Claiming he would build a wall between Mexico and the US and get Mexico to pay for it. A prima facie absurd, claim.
11) Claiming that Barack Obama is not a native born citizen of the United States. And refusing to alter his position even after being confronted with irrefutable facts. (eventually he was begrudgingly forced to stop this nonsense.)
12) Being an asshole.
13) Claiming that those engaged in investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election are engaged in a "witch hunt" despite well over 30 indictments having resulted, including many Russians, and despite several guilty pleas or guilty verdicts from those indicted.

etc, etc .

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*Condone means to overlook. It does not mean to" approve of ", although the word has been so incorrectly used so often in recent years that it may be losing its original meaning, and may now be assumed by many to mean "approve of". Here I mean it in its correct and original sense.

Literally couldn't even name one thing he's done in office that was bad for Americans. This is why you lose in 2020 and we Republicans with our new SCJ's will control the direction of this country for the next 30 years.

I mean what do democrats even run on in 2020? That their candidate is "not Trump"? It's pathetic. You guys stand for nothing.
 
Glad you asked. Here is a very much abbreviated list.
1) Condoned* the separation of parents and children in Federal detention and the losing track of them. Then acting with indifference when courts demanded that the children be return to their parents.
2) Founded a Fraudulent "University" used to bilk hundreds from their money.
3) Set up a Fraudulent Foundation used to obtain tax advantaged money for personal expenditures, and publicly claimed the monies the Foundation spent were charitable contributions and took personal credit for these "contributions".
4) Repeatedly violated a key provision of the Constitution known as the "Emoluments Clause".
5) When U.S. agencies found that Russia had interfered with a U.S. election, he sided with Russia over his own country's intelligence and law enforcement agencies.
6) Drafted a false statement about the purpose of a meeting between his campaign staff and a Russian operative.
7) Created chaos among world trade markets by repeatedly announcing new tariffs, and then days or weeks later extensively modifying his position when shown the damage that would be done to American interests. Then claiming he is a great deal maker!
8) Expressed the opinion that cooperating with Federal prosecutors should be illegal.
9) Hiring foreign agents as his campaign chairman and his foreign affairs advisor.
10) Claiming he would build a wall between Mexico and the US and get Mexico to pay for it. A prima facie absurd, claim.
11) Claiming that Barack Obama is not a native born citizen of the United States. And refusing to alter his position even after being confronted with irrefutable facts. (eventually he was begrudgingly forced to stop this nonsense.)
12) Being an asshole.
13) Claiming that those engaged in investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election are engaged in a "witch hunt" despite well over 30 indictments having resulted, including many Russians, and despite several guilty pleas or guilty verdicts from those indicted.

etc, etc .

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*Condone means to overlook. It does not mean to" approve of ", although the word has been so incorrectly used so often in recent years that it may be losing its original meaning, and may now be assumed by many to mean "approve of". Here I mean it in its correct and original sense.

And none of those things have any impact on American's day to day lives, unlike what Obama did with HC or what Bush got us into in the ME.
 
And none of those things have any impact on American's day to day lives, unlike what Obama did with HC or what Bush got us into in the ME.
I suppose it will come as no surprise to you that I think the trade tariff chaos Trump has created does affect American's day to day lives, directly and indirectly; that I think the ordinary people that lost money to Trump's frauds were affected; that the contractors he made sue him to collect what was owed to them were affected, and in turn their employees; that the soybean farmers in the Midwest and the Mississippi delta were affected by trade chaos Trump created for the purpose of attracting attention to himself and trying to appear as though he is " a great deal maker," when in fact nothing of substance was gained, and our relationship to our trading partners was seriously damaged.. I could go into how Trumps violation of the emoluments clause could even impact whether a young American might live or die, but I'll not. To do that would require far more discourse then I am inclined to engage in here. Just as things often seem more complex than they are, the opposite is true as well.

We are a democratic republic with all the defects and strengths that implies. We have now a President that cares nothing for majority opinion, the very bulwark underpinning our Republic. Instead, he makes decisions based on the demands of his ego. This is why our country is in grave peril.

Mr. Trump has selected a man of impeccable qualification to sit on the Supreme Court for perhaps 40 years, but he has selected him for the wrong reason. He has selected him specifically because of his peculiar views, views far from mainstream legal thinking on executive privilege and the powers of the executive. This candidates singular interpretation of our Constitution could, and there is little doubt that in fact it will if he is confirmed, result in the unnecessary loss of tens of hundreds of Americans' lives over the course of his career on the Court*, and also the loss of women's right to choose when to bear a child, and when not to! These are matters of the most profound importance affecting the day to day lives of millions of Americans.

Mr. Trump selected Bret Kavanaugh for one overriding reason. Kavannaugh was chosen for his singular, and peculiar views on the powers of the Chief Executive, views highly favorable to Mr. Trump's in his current precarious position. These strange views, expressed in writing and especially while he was in the G.W. Bush White House --there again seemingly tailored to be highly favorable to the chief executive -- break away from those of nearly all legal scholars, precedents set by courts, and the principle taught to all school children for over two Centuries that the President is not above the law.

In Mr. Kavanaugh's view, the President is not bound by statutory law, but may selectively decide whether he will obey a law or not; the president may not be investigated while in office; the president is not subject to subpoena; and the president may not be indicted. In his confirmation hearings, Mr. Kavanaugh artfully dodges all questions regarding whether he agrees with prior Court decisions, his stock answer is that they are "settled law." Because of his unambiguous and peculiar views of the Executive's power, however, there can be no doubt that Mr. Kavanaugh disagrees with the Courts prior decisions that held that civil suits against the president may proceed while the president is in office; and with the Courts unanimous decision in U.S. v Nixon holding that the President must respond to Mr. Jaworski's subpoena.** Obviously these precedents are inconsistent with Kavanaughs view that the President is above the law, and serve to highlight how truly bizarre Kavanaugh's opinions are in regard to executive power.

Mr. Kavanaugh was asked whether the president could pardon himself. He declined to answer, saying that this was a hypothetical situation and he could not respond to hypotheticals. But what does that tell you about his extreme interpretation of Presidential power? No juror would hold that the president could pardon himself, because to do so would place the President above the law; an interpretation of law that violates virtually every American's long standing belief that the President is not above the law. Why did Mr. Kavanaugh not simply dismiss the question by saying, "Of course the president may not pardon himself. That would mock the drafters of the Constitution by claiming they intended something that was absurd. If the president may pardon himself, then of course he is above law." Mr. Kavanaugh's non-answer on a question so clear-cut leaves us with only one reasonable course of action. He must not be confirmed. The only one we thought could possibly believe the president is above the law was of course Mr. Trump. But that was before we knew of Mr. Kavanaugh's strange beliefs. Now Mr. Trump has apparently been joined by Mr. Kavanaugh.

The unfortunate high probability that Mr. Kavanaugh will be confirmed by the Senate, is another example of how Mr, Trump can go on affecting the Day to Day lives of Americans, as you put it, long after he is out of office. Mr. Trump is not harmless. The lasting harm that Mr. Trump may cause has little to do with the merits and nuances of left versus right politics. Instead, it strikes at the bedrock of our Republic, its democratic foundation. It is a gravely serious matter.

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*As a self declared "textualist" he holds extraordinarily bizarre views on the application of the Second Amendment.

**My reading of this case is that when compliance with the subpoena can be shown to be necessary to judicial process, that need may override privilege claimed by the executive. Thus I would expect any subpoena of any type issued to the president to be more or less automatically adjudicated, whereas if you or I are subpoenaed, we will simply respond without challenge. So in this sense subpoenas issued to a president are different.
 
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I suppose it will come as no surprise to you that I think the trade tariff chaos Trump has created does affect American's day to day lives, directly and indirectly; that I think the ordinary people that lost money to Trump's frauds were affected; that the contractors he made sue him to collect what was owed to them were affected, and in turn their employees; that the soybean farmers in the Midwest and the Mississippi delta were affected by trade chaos Trump created for the purpose of attracting attention to himself and trying to appear as though he is " a great deal maker," when in fact nothing of substance was gained, and our relationship to our trading partners was seriously damaged.. I could go into how Trumps violation of the emoluments clause could even impact whether a young American might live or die, but I'll not. To do that would require far more discourse then I am inclined to engage in here. Just as things often seem more complex than they are, the opposite is true as well.

Mr. Trump has selected a man of impeccable qualification to sit on the Supreme Court for perhaps 40 years, but he has selected him for the wrong reason. He has selected him specifically because of his peculiar views, views far from mainstream legal thinking on executive privilege and the powers of the executive. This candidates singular interpretation of our Constitution could, and there is little doubt that in fact it will if he is confirmed, result in the unnecessary loss of tens of hundreds of Americans' lives over the course of his career on the Court*, and also the loss of women's right to choose when to bear a child, and when not to! These are matters of the most profound importance affecting the day to day lives of millions of Americans.

We are a democratic republic with all the defects and strengths that implies. We have now a President that cares nothing for majority opinion, the very bulwark underpinning our Republic. Instead, he makes decisions based on the demands of his ego. This is why our country is in grave peril.

Mr. Kavanaugh, a superbly qualified candidate in terms of education, experience and demonstrated fine judgement in matters that have come before him on the Circuit Court, a man of brilliant recall and generally high standards, was not chosen by Mr. Trump for these fine qualities. Instead, he was chosen for his singular, and peculiar views on the powers of the Chief Executive, views highly favorable to Mr. Trump's in his current precarious position. These strange views of Mr. Kavanaugh's, expressed in writing and especially while he was in the G.W. Bush White House --there again seemingly tailored to be highly favorable to the chief executive -- break away from those of nearly all legal scholars, precedents set by courts, and the principle taught to all school children for over two Centuries that the President is not above the law.

In Mr. Kavanaugh's view, the President is not bound by statutory law, but may selectively decide whether he will obey a law or not; the president may not be investigated while in office; the president is not subject to subpoena; and the president may not be indicted. In his confirmation hearings, Mr. Kavanaugh artfully dodges all questions regarding whether he agrees with prior Court decisions, his stock answer is that they are "settled law." Because of his unambiguous and peculiar views of the Executive's power, however, there can be no doubt that Mr. Kavanaugh disagrees with the Courts prior decisions that held that civil suits against the president may proceed while the president is in office; and with the Courts unanimous decision in U.S. v Nixon holding that the President must respond to Mr. Jaworski's subpoena.**

Mr. Kavanaugh was asked whether the president could pardon himself. He declined to answer, saying that this was a hypothetical situation and he could not respond to hypotheticals. But what does that tell you about his extreme interpretation of Presidential power? No respectable juror would hold that the president could pardon hinself because to do so would place the President above the law; an intrepretation of law that violates virtually every American's long standing belief that the President is not above the law. Why did Mr. Kavanaugh not simply dismiss the question by saying, "Of course the president may not pardon himself. That would mock the drafters of the Constitution by claiming they intending something that was absurd. If the prsident may pardon himself, then of course he is above law. " Mr. Kavanaugh's non-answer on a question so clear-cut leaves us with only one reasonable course of action. He must not be confirmed. The only ones that can believe the president is above the law are of course Mr. Trump and now apparently Mr. Kavanaugh also.

The unfortunate high probability that Mr. Kavanaugh will be confirmed by the Senate, is still an example of how Mr, Trump can go on affecting the Day to Day lives of Americans, as you put it, long after he is put of office. Mr. Trump is not harmless. The lasting harm that Mr. Trump may cause has little to do with the merits and nuances of left versus right politics. It strikes at the bedrock of our Republic, its democratic foundation. It is a gravely serious matter.

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*As a self declared "textualist" he holds extraordinarily bizarre views on the application of the Second Amendment.

**My reading of this case is that when compliance with the subpoena can be shown to be necessary to judicial process that need may override privilege claimed by the executive. Thus I would expect any subpoena of any type issued to the president to be more or less automatically adjudicated, whereas if you or I are subpoenaed, we will simply respond without challenge. So in this sense subpoenas issued to a president are different.

There is a better example - 3000 people died under Trump's watch in PR because of historically poor response. If that's not incompetent and criminal enough, what is?
 
In Mr. Kavanaugh's view, the President is not bound by statutory law, but may selectively decide whether he will obey a law or not; the president may not be investigated while in office; the president is not subject to subpoena; and the president may not be indicted. In his confirmation hearings, Mr. Kavanaugh artfully dodges all questions regarding whether he agrees with prior Court decisions, his stock answer is that they are "settled law." Because of his unambiguous and peculiar views of the Executive's power, however, there can be no doubt that Mr. Kavanaugh disagrees with the Courts prior decisions that held that civil suits against the president may proceed while the president is in office; and with the Courts unanimous decision in U.S. v Nixon holding that the President must respond to Mr. Jaworski's subpoena.**

Mr. Kavanaugh was asked whether the president could pardon himself. He declined to answer, saying that this was a hypothetical situation and he could not respond to hypotheticals. But what does that tell you about his extreme interpretation of Presidential power? No respectable juror would hold that the president could pardon hinself because to do so would place the President above the law; an intrepretation of law that violates virtually every American's long standing belief that the President is not above the law. Why did Mr. Kavanaugh not simply dismiss the question by saying, "Of course the president may not pardon himself. That would mock the drafters of the Constitution by claiming they intending something that was absurd. If the prsident may pardon himself, then of course he is above law. " Mr. Kavanaugh's non-answer on a question so clear-cut leaves us with only one reasonable course of action. He must not be confirmed. The only ones that can believe the president is above the law are of course Mr. Trump and now apparently Mr. Kavanaugh also.

The unfortunate high probability that Mr. Kavanaugh will be confirmed by the Senate, is still an example of how Mr, Trump can go on affecting the Day to Day lives of Americans, as you put it, long after he is put of office. Mr. Trump is not harmless. The lasting harm that Mr. Trump may cause has little to do with the merits and nuances of left versus right politics. It strikes at the bedrock of our Republic, its democratic foundation. It is a gravely serious matter.

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*As a self declared "textualist" he holds extraordinarily bizarre views on the application of the Second Amendment.

**My reading of this case is that when compliance with the subpoena can be shown to be necessary to judicial process that need may override privilege claimed by the executive. Thus I would expect any subpoena of any type issued to the president to be more or less automatically adjudicated, whereas if you or I are subpoenaed, we will simply respond without challenge. So in this sense subpoenas issued to a president are different.




For those of you who might be monitoring trades, let me summarize Piezoe's recitation of the Gutenberg Bible here.

He recounts how Brett Kavanaugh has been proven to be a brilliant and experienced jurist except he is wrong in any views that might be helpful to Trump.

There. Just saved you some time and I know you are shocked by his view.

OR NOT.
 
For those of you who might be monitoring trades, let me summarize Piezoe's recitation of the Gutenberg Bible here.

He recounts how Brett Kavanaugh has been proven to be a brilliant and experienced jurist except he is wrong in any views that might be helpful to Trump.

There. Just saved you some time and I know you are shocked by his view.

OR NOT.
That's a nice , concise, and correct summary! However it omits perhaps the single most important point I made. Those few places in judicial thinking where Kavananaugh breaks from convention and joins Trump in believing that the President is above the law are so extremely dangerous to our democracy that Kavanaugh must not be confirmed.
 
That's a nice , concise, and correct summary! However it omits perhaps the single most important point I made. Those few places in judicial thinking where Kavananaugh breaks from convention and joins Trump in believing that the President is above the law are so extremely dangerous to our democracy that Kavanaugh must not be confirmed.

You lack the ability to process what Kavanaugh's position is. He has specifically stated that no person, including a President is above the law. He has only stated that in many instances prosecution is deferred until after impeachment or while he is in office- to prevent a President from being flooded/harassed with civil and politically motivated criminal charges.

Oh, and Kavanaugh's position is consistent with the policy established by the Justice Department based on the legal opionion of the DOJ attorneys- PRE-TRUMP.

You need to google more and stop relying on Saskatchewan law for precedent.
 
If he is not hounded, the next republican will take this and go further...Too many of you are complacent lazy men.
Who are you to lecture us, foreign troll?

You're not an American:
I'm not American

And you hate America and Americans:
Soooo glad 95.4% of the world is not American. Hope for humanity.:)
What I am is tired of American B.S. from all sides.
God it must be so embarrassing to be American.

Fuck off and get a life.
 
Please vote.
Between posting here all day and protesting at the Kavanaugh hearing, you must be incredibly busy! How do you do it all?

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Trump frets over 'perjury trap' if he sits down with Mueller..

This is insanity, we have a president who not only knows, but admits that he is incapable of telling the truth.

Even the biggest Trump supporters here have to be able to admit that he's a habitual liar right? You like what he's doing and his policies, but you can admit he's a serial liar, the ends just justify the means right? Please tell me there is some sanity on the other side.
 
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