Poll: Is Obamacare good or bad for Americans?

Is Obamacare good or bad for Americans?

  • Good

    Votes: 13 25.0%
  • Bad

    Votes: 39 75.0%

  • Total voters
    52
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In defiance of reality illustrated in numerous polls, on Sunday’s Face the Nation, host Bob Schieffer scolded Republican Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn when she correctly asserted “there is only partisan support” for ObamaCare. Schieffer cut her off: “Well now Congresswoman, that’s not entirely true. The polls don’t suggest that. Polls say that most people favor it.”
In fact, more have disapproved than approved of ObamaCare since it was passed, as confirmed in a new CBS News/New York Times survey released Wednesday night, September 25:

Opinions of the health care law overall continue to be negative. With health insurance exchanges set to open up for enrollment on Oct. 1, 39 percent of Americans now approve of the health care law, but more – 51 percent – disapprove, similar to views in July. Since the law was enacted in 2010, more have disapproved than approved of it.

Maybe Schieffer would have been aware of that if the CBS Evening News or CBS This Morning bothered to report that finding – but they didn’t.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-...-say-most-people-favor-obamacar#ixzz2gKbI2En7

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According to this thread poll there are 12 ET members or about 26% that still believe in the tooth fairy.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

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A great SNL open. Enjoyed the Breaking Bad reference.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

I could be wrong but I'm not inclined to think Obamacare was intentionally designed to fail either. 1) Most of those who passed it never even read it. 2)
Most federal programs aren't designed to fail but do anyway. They do so because of idiot lawmakers regulating issues they know little or nothing about, too many compromises, excessive bureaucracy, incompetent federal employees and gross inefficiencies.

The dept of ED, DHS, DEA, BATF, dept of energy to name a few were not designed to fail. But they have in fact failed miserably and at enormous cost to the tax payers. Because they were not designed to succeed. See #2 above.

We instigated these programs with good intentions, even if misguided. And even after we decide that they are not accomplishing what they were intended to, or had bad unintended consequences, we are slow to make corrections and often continue the same senseless policies for years at great expense, if for no other reason then each program creates its own vested interests.

I suppose mediocrity of outcome is inherent in the democratic process. Occasionally though, we get an good outcome, and an effective and well-run government program results. When that happens, once we recognize how much money could be made if only we could "privatize" the program, we will do our best to kill it. If we can't kill it outright, we will use death by a thousand cuts. :D
 
Quote from piezoe:

We instigated these programs with good intentions, even if misguided. And even after we decide that they are not accomplishing what they were intended to, or had bad unintended consequences, we are slow to make corrections and often continue the same senseless policies for years at great expense, if for no other reason then each program creates its own vested interests....

And Obamacare is well on it's way to being yet another one...
 
Quote from Lucrum:

In defiance of reality illustrated in numerous polls, on Sunday’s Face the Nation, host Bob Schieffer scolded Republican Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn when she correctly asserted “there is only partisan support” for ObamaCare. Schieffer cut her off: “Well now Congresswoman, that’s not entirely true. The polls don’t suggest that. Polls say that most people favor it.”
In fact, more have disapproved than approved of ObamaCare since it was passed, as confirmed in a new CBS News/New York Times survey released Wednesday night, September 25:

Opinions of the health care law overall continue to be negative. With health insurance exchanges set to open up for enrollment on Oct. 1, 39 percent of Americans now approve of the health care law, but more – 51 percent – disapprove, similar to views in July. Since the law was enacted in 2010, more have disapproved than approved of it.

Maybe Schieffer would have been aware of that if the CBS Evening News or CBS This Morning bothered to report that finding – but they didn’t.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-...-say-most-people-favor-obamacar#ixzz2gKbI2En7

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According to this thread poll there are 12 ET members or about 26% that still believe in the tooth fairy.

What's truly amazing is how the perception, if not the actual public polls, were turned around before the ACA went into effect in any meaningful way! The majority were for it initially and now the appearance, if not the reality, that the majority is against it has been created .

That's a huge triumph for negative advertising, and makes me wonder if negative advertising isn't considerably more effective than positive. We don't even have the insurance exchanges up and running; yet the medical cartel has already got people convinced the rates they will be quoted will be disastrous --or I should say even more disastrous then they already were.

Good job, Ted Cruz!

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-karl-rove-ted-cruz-obamacare-20130923,0,618536.story
 
As Contrary Evidence Mounts, Establishment Press Ignores President's 'No Widespread Evidence Obamacare Is Hurting Jobs' Claim

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-bl...s-presidents-no-widespread-evid#ixzz2gO6y7emc


Gallup: At Least 25% of Uninsured Americans Say They Will Stay That Way

- See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/sus...s-say-they-will-stay-way#sthash.JdhGzgsk.dpuf


Mort Zuckerman: Because of ObamaCare '88% of Jobs Created This Year Are Part-Time'

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...jobs-created-year-are-part-time#ixzz2gO86apWb
 
Harry Reid was recently asked: "What about polls showing most voters don't want Obamacare?"

His response:

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Quote from Lucrum:

Really? The majority of who, the parasites or the taxpayers?

If you recall the early professional polls showed wide support for a medical overhaul, and that was of course part of the campaign platform that swept Obama into office.

Here are a couple recent polls from non-disinterested pollsters, so we would have to discount them as not reliable/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot...rt-repealing-defunding-or-delaying-obamacare/

And here is a very recent Rasmussen Poll - more reliable I would think since Rasmussen is a professional polling outfit and supposedly know how to go about obtaining unbiased results.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law

Here is still another:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...arrives-little-understood-and-not-well-liked/

What I gathered from all these is that we are all in the dark, but just not knowing anything is not enough to keep us from forming a firm opinion -- 50% of us firm one way, the other 50% just as firm the other way. :D What a Country!

In the end I think we have got to go with Mort Zuckerman. I mean what could be more reliable than that! :D

On second thought, Harry Reid's visual comment is probably as accurate, unbiased, and concise as we are going to find. :D :D :D
 
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