Quote from Gabfly1:
This site just keeps getting better, doesn't it?
I did not refer to what is or isn't allowed. I referred to what is or isn't shameful and disturbing. People with standards and a code of conduct can distinguish the difference.Quote from Ivanovich:
Since there was no specific example of hateful rhetoric, I voted that yes, it is fine. Freedom of Speech allows (or should allow) any and all hateful commentary - regardless of whether we like it or not.
And, yes, I find Steeler Baby's conduct shameful and disturbing.Quote from Steelers Baby:
In a way what you said is actually true, it would be an insult to most people...to be mistaken for...
I whole heartedly apologise to anyone out there who may be reading...for mistaking you with Gabfly1, I know it is an insult and i just crossed the line, sorry guys.
Quote from Gabfly1:
And there we have it. 45 respondents, representing almost three quarters of the people who participated in this poll, believe that hateful rhetoric is fine. They find it neither shameful nor disturbing. Note that the poll was not about criticism. It was about hate. And, evidently, that's just fine.
He does NOT have a fucking right to make up shit and present it as fact to incite his millions of so-called ditto heads to hatred and violence.
I hope that this piece of human excrement that has lied and lied his way to a fortune is silenced for a long time...eternity
Why isn't this POS in jail? He needs to be sharing a cell with a large angry black homosexual. And those are the "nice" thoughts I have for him.
It is nature's way of telling assholes like Limbaugh that beers are being thrown back in celebration of that heart attack.
If he gets well, so be it. If he gets worse, be it paralyzed, comatose, or dead, he's earned it.
I hope he dies and I'm glad he's sick. All this fat asshole has done is encourage a whole generation of Americans to be right-wing, bigoted scumbags like him. He's divided our nation and has been nothing but a bad influence.
I'll never apologize for hating Rush. Or wishing death and illness on him.
Quote from drjekyllus:
Dude, we are still waiting to see the hate. I challenged you and your buddy Optional777 to provide some. It is sort like how both of you idiots rail on and on about how me and other posters are racists. We ask you for your evidence and we get nothing but silence.
Quote from OPTIONAL777:
Going back to the initial question in the poll.
Part 1.
Is the rhetoric against Obama hateful?
I would say it definitely is not loving, nor would it be categorized as "constructive criticism." Is the rhetoric focused on the man, or the issues?
On the man for the most part, hatred of the man.
Part 2.
Is the rhetoric shameful?
Shame is in the eye of the beholder.
Should the hateful rhetoric be censored or controlled?
Nope.
Quote from drjekyllus:
Once again please cite examples.
Second, if the guy can't take it, don't run for President. The left spent 8 years launching personal attacks against Bush. Bush stood there and took it like a man. It comes with the job. If you arent suited to do it, don't bother showing up. Lets face it, when Optional777 says it is "hatred of the man", what he is really saying is it is racist. We have seen the left offer horrible ideas for years, and time and time again these misguided ideas get rejected. To explain why the idea failed, they can never accept the fact that they offered bad ideas, they simply play the race card. Its unenlightened and its really boring watching the same episode play out over and over.
Quote from bugscoe:
Since no one (Gabfly and his army of fake victims) has bothered to bring any examples of hateful rhetoric to the thread, I thought I would see if this qualifies. This is from the Daily Kos reagarding Limbaugh's hospitalization::
Gabfly, please explain...