Paul Tudor Jones--- Ultra Rare Autograph

A speculator is interested in being right vs. wrong. a trader is interested in making money. A speculator can be right and lose lots of money.

Quote from marketsurfer:

VN is the greatest living speculator.

Tudor Jones is considered by many to be the greatest trader of all time.

there is a difference.


surf
 
Quote from Thunderdog:

I guess that would make him a spectaculator.

Still waiting for an answer, surf...



laying in bed with the raven haired quant, however, i shall take the time to enlighten you to the best of my ability at this time.

a trader can speculate and a speculator can trade but a trader and a speculator are different animals.

a speculator accepts the risk of not knowing what's going to occur and bases decisions on a wide array of information, often for the longer term. tracy is correct in his post, also, a speculator can be correct yet lose money--- whereas a trader is right or wrong based solely on wins/losses.

a trader, on the other hand, generally bases decisions on short term price movements and other ethereal indicators looking to take quick profits/losses via agiotage.

noise traders, in particular, are not speculators---


regards,

surf
 
It could be that Mrs. Surfer and Mr Surfer have indeed parted ways...thus the need for a Surfer asset (gaffaw) dump. But I have no info on that...that's simply random speculation. Which I hope isn't true.
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

...a speculator accepts the risk of not knowing what's going to occur and bases decisions on a wide array of information, often for the longer term. tracy is correct in his post, also, a speculator can be correct yet lose money--- whereas a trader is right or wrong based solely on wins/losses.

a trader, on the other hand, generally bases decisions on short term price movements and other ethereal indicators looking to take quick profits/losses via agiotage...
Unless I am mistaken, that's a rather homespun definition, held together by duct tape. Would you kindly point me to the source of your comparative definitions? I think it would make for interesting reading.
 
Quote from Thunderdog:

Unless I am mistaken, that's a rather homespun definition, held together by duct tape. Would you kindly point me to the source of your comparative definitions? I think it would make for interesting reading.


wikipedia has a decent article on "speculator".

however, i believe i am breaking new ground here in publication.

regards,

surf
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

wikipedia has a decent article on "speculator".

however, i believe i am breaking new ground here in publication.

regards,

surf
Just be sure to watch for the septic tank.
:p
 
Quote from marketsurfer:

an extremely rare and ultra collectable original autographed business card from the greatest trader of all time---PAUL TUDOR JONES.

as you know, PTJ is highly press shy and ultra secretive.

regards,

surf

As someone who used to work for PTJ back in 1986 ( I have his signature too :D )
I would say that Paul is fairly removed from trading these days . . .

My vote for greatest trader of all time goes to Stevie Cohen, bar none.
 
Quote from Landis82:

As someone who used to work for PTJ back in 1986 ( I have his signature too :D )
I would say that Paul is fairly removed from trading these days . . .

My vote for greatest trader of all time goes to Stevie Cohen, bar none.

yes.....its a toss up. I agree.

surf
 
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