Paul Ryan/Nancy Pelosi/Medicare
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Assuming you're aware that the plan, while still chugging along right now, cannot sustain the pace. Neither can Social Security. I would like to see those that looted these funds strung up, literally, but that isn't going to happen. We must do some repair work before they breakdown compleltely. We can argue about the shared pain of the repair, but the repair needs doing none the less.
the government already ran an experiment similar to a ryan lite plan. it was called medicare advantage. turns out it cost 14% more than traditional medicare.
I'm going through this now with my father in law. Yes, Medicare is fine, sort of, but he still has to pay ~$7,000/yr for his supplemental.
The big problem is that many MDs in our area (suburban NJ) are planning to cut down on Medicare (and especially Medicaid) because of the low fees and ginormous amounts of administrative costs.
Even bigger is what Obama has put on the table recently: those 30 million new low income participants, most of whom have no money to pay for health insurance, will have to be accommodated somehow, via additional funding and/or cuts in Medicare (eg, the $716 billion, etc). Obama cares a lot more about those younger future dems, legal or illegal, and their families than he does for today's seniors that he feels are already voting for his side anyway... despite the fact that the latter have already paid into the system and deserve priority. His other controversial/terrible tool to direct more attention to the former is his death panels that will further siphon resources away from the care of seniors.
That's fine, but Ryan has a plan. Let's tweak it, refine it, at least it's a starting point. Just leaving things be will turn out poorly for future generations, and those generations ain't all that far down the road. We need an intelligent, adult conversation, without seeing visions of granny shoved off a cliff.
ryan has no plan. he is banking on the discredited idea that private enterprize is always cheaper than the government. in healthcare that is not true.
we already have a private enterprize healthcare system outside of medicare and it costs us 50% more than any other nation on earth.
Ryan, the Wisconsin representative Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney announced today as his running mate, is both thoughtful and prolific. I could have many policy debates with him on a range of issues. Today, though, Iâm going to focus on health care. Ryanâs approach to health care is somewhat akin to a doctor observing that an arm is finally showing some signs of healing -- and then deciding to amputate it.
Over the past several years, health-care costs have decelerated dramatically -- suggesting our broken arm may slowly be starting to heal. But rather than reinforcing that progress, Ryan would chart a drastically different course, one that would not only shift substantial risk to beneficiaries but also, according to the Congressional Budget Office, actually raise health-care costs.
CBOâs analysis, not surprisingly, confirms that federal expenditures under the Ryan Medicare plan would be reduced sharply. Federal payments for a typical beneficiary by 2030, for example, would be more than 20 percent lower than current projections.
But CBO also analyzed a more relevant question: What would happen to total health-care costs, including the extra costs for the beneficiaries as the federal share was reduced? Total costs are what matters, since simply shifting costs around without altering the total does not accomplish much.
Costs Shared
According to CBO, Ryanâs plan would not reduce total health-care costs. Instead, it would increase the total, because more cost-sharing for consumers doesnât do that much to constrain spending and because private plans have higher administrative costs and less negotiating leverage than the federal Medicare program.
You read that right: According to CBO, the Ryan Medicare plan would increase health-care spending. In 2030, total health- care spending for the typical beneficiary would be more than 40 percent higher under the Ryan plan than under existing Medicare.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-11/paul-ryan-is-thoughtful-handsome-and-misguided.html
No, Ryan has a plan. He has a plan you don't agree with. I don't like all aspects of it, but he does have a plan. It needs work, but he has a plan. Pelosi does not, unless you consider doing nothing to repair what obviously needs repairing a plan.