Paul Ryan agrees to be House Speaker -- if certain conditions are met

[fhl]

However I will state that anyone viewing electing Ryan as Speaker with the associated demands as some sort of victory for the conservatives is completely off base in my opinion.

Ok, i'll explain it to you.

If the Freedom caucus obtains regular order to the house, then they'll have some input over what comes up for a vote. The prospect of that happening makes pee run down the legs of rinos. Because if, say, conservatives brought to a vote a bill to defund Planned Parenthood, the rinos would actually have to cast a vote on it. They couldn't say they're against planned parenthood, when they really aren't. Or any other hot button issue. It exposes them to the party as to what they really stand for. And this they are scared to death of.

The Freedom Caucus can't elect their own man. They don't have the votes. But they can block anyone that won't open up House procedures for them. Unless Paul Ryan gets democrats to vote him speaker. But that leads right back to the same problem. The base would see what they really stand for.

 

[fhl]

 

[Ricter]

Say what you will about the democrats, but it is a cold day in hell when they sell out or abandon their supporters.

We have it easier, not being pulled in three directions: 1) towards traditional "blue collar" conservatism and the desire to protect the status quo race/gender hierarchy. 2) towards plutocracy, similar to #1, but emphasis on protecting the hierarchy of wealth. 3) towards Bible thumping.

 

[Tsing Tao]

We have it easier, not being pulled in three directions: 1) towards traditional "blue collar" conservatism and the desire to protect the status quo race/gender hierarchy. 2) towards plutocracy, similar to #1, but emphasis on protecting the hierarchy of wealth. 3) towards Bible thumping.

Lots of Democrats fall under point #2. They just pretend to not be classified as such. That's the only difference between them and Republicans.

 

[jem]

1 and 2 were cute marxist type categorizations a generation ago... but 1 and 2 are really a desire to stop the cronies from gathering in even more power and money and screwing the workers and tax payers more. its not about class or quo... its about protecting our freedom from the cronies using the govt to strip away our liberties and money and future.

We have it easier, not being pulled in three directions: 1) towards traditional "blue collar" conservatism and the desire to protect the status quo race/gender hierarchy. 2) towards plutocracy, similar to #1, but emphasis on protecting the hierarchy of wealth. 3) towards Bible thumping.

 

[Ricter]

really a desire to stop the cronies from gathering in even more power and money and screwing the workers and tax payers more. its not about clas

Actually, that would be about class.

 

[Ricter]

Lots of Democrats fall under point #2. They just pretend to not be classified as such. That's the only difference between them and Republicans.

There must be more difference than that. Else, why do they get called redistributionist and socialist but the rightists do not?

 

[Wallet]

Tell Ryan to do the Country a favor and sit down.

 

[gwb-trading]

Boehner's last fight with Obama
As his final act, the speaker seeks to extend D.C. voucher program that the administration wants to kill.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/john-boehner-vouchers-education-schools-republicans-214984

 

[gwb-trading]

Freedom Caucus commits hari kari...

Freedom Caucus Majority Backs Paul Ryan for House Speaker
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/22/us/politics/paul-ryan-house-speaker-freedom-caucus.html

A strong majority of anti-establishment lawmakers in the House Freedom Caucus voted on Wednesday night to support Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin for House speaker, effectively delivering the Republican Party unity that he had sought as a condition for accepting the post.

While the vote fell short of the four-fifths majority required for the group’s official endorsement, lawmakers said it nonetheless cleared the way for Mr. Ryan, 45, to be selected as the Republican nominee next Wednesday and affirmed as speaker in a floor vote the next day.

Mr. Ryan did not immediately comment on whether the majority vote was sufficient, given that he said he wanted the endorsement of all factions of his party.