Opinions on Interactive Brokers?

If you trade larger blocks of low priced shares, you're better off at a fixed fee broker that charges $4.95 per trade. If you want to scale in and out of positions, IB charges 50 cent commission per 100 shares ($1 minimum charge per trade). So five trades of 200 shares is the same $5 commission as one trade of 1,000 shares and that allows scaling in and out of positions without a flat fee penalty for multiple trades. . Option commissions are 15 to 70 cts per contract with free option assignment and exercise (bonus points for that from me). Sometimes you get ECN rebates for providing liquidity. And yes, they charge data feed fees. For me, it's 3 feeds for AMEX, NYSE, NASDAQ and OPTIONS so it's a grand total of $4.50 USD per month.

Ignoring the $4.50 per month, for a recent period, my average commission per 100 shares for non assignment/exercise shares was 68 cents per 100 shares. This is skewed upward a bit because I also trade some illiquid stocks and often, I only get fills of only 100 shares and after changing the trade price, it results in multiple 100 share fills which does not occur with liquid stocks I trade. Since I often buy shares via assignment and unload ITM options via exercise to avoid the B/A haircut, the average commission per 100 shares for ALL equity shares traded during this period was just under 40 cents per 100 shares. During this period, my option commission averaged 71 cents per contract but that is skewed downward by the free assignment and exercise. These numbers have been fairly consistent for the nearly 20 years that I have been with IB.

The claim of $3 and change per trade by someone makes no sense to me - unless that person is barely trading and not meeting the low threshold of trading frequency and getting hit with the $10 per month fee for not generating $30 in commissions per month.

Now, the Trader Workstation. Ugh, yes, it is a disappointment. It's user not user friendly and the learning curve takes some time. Most periodic platform upgrades tend to destroy some of my configuration but I've fixed it so many times that I feel like a garage mechanic. Because of this, I used to avoid upgrading versions until they no longer supported it and I was forced to upgrade. Now, the periodic upgrades are automatic (sigh). I know what I know and trade what I trade so most of the improvements don't benefit me.

Years ago, customer service was pretty sketchy. Some reps had no clue and it meant calling back and trying again. These days, it's far, far better and while it may take some time, they resolve it and I have no complaints (like installation of platform or DDE software on new computer with set up transfer, etc.)

As an old dog and I don't want to learn new tricks. I'm there and not going anywhere. But if I was starting out and if something user friendly existed with a similar commission structure, I'd be there.

As someone already mentioned, you can use the tiered structure with IB and save on commissions (sometimes even be negative commissions depending on your size) IF you route your orders correctly (will require some homework) and are generally adding liquidity.

if you don't like the TWS software, find a third-party software to use as a front-end, there are about a hundred listed on IB's third party provider page.
 
if you don't like the TWS software, find a third-party software to use as a front-end, there are about a hundred listed on IB's third party provider page.

Setting up a variety of option orders and buying and selling options and equities doesn't require rocket science. I don't like IB's software - especially the headaches that arise with new upgrades - but it's not bad enough that I need to go elsewhere.

One thing that I really do like is the ability via a DDE connection to have Excel live in real time. That's where the heavy lifting is done and that saves me a lot of time.
 
Bob,
I know my Schwab IRA just charges the $4.95 commission and nothing else when I do a stock transaction. Which makes the below chart from Interactive Brokers highly deceptive, given that the Schwab fee is a total of $4.95, full stop, and the Interactive Brokers fee is $1 plus a bunch of other stuff that could easily end up being far higher than everyone that they're showing as more expensive. You guys are fairly upfront about that, IB not so much. (I know you have no love lost for IB either, you're so fair about it though!)

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Do you know whether Schwab offer market/limit-on-open and market/limit-on-close orders?

Thank you.
 
Hello guys,

got a beginner question here,

in IB demo account, it takes , sometimes, 20 mins or more , to get filled 1000 shares, at stocks like KO, AMD, TSLA, even with market type orders. Be it long or short.


Is the real platform so slow as well ?

Like AMD has 2,5k share flow per second,on avarage, so doesn't make sense.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Hello guys,

got a beginner question here,

in IB demo account, it takes , sometimes, 20 mins or more , to get filled 1000 shares, at stocks like KO, AMD, TSLA, even with market type orders. Be it long or short.


Is the real platform so slow as well ?

Like AMD has 2,5k share flow per second,on avarage, so doesn't make sense.

Thanks in advance.
No such problem on real platform. Execution on IB is superior compared to other brokers like E-trade.
 
in IB demo account, it takes , sometimes, 20 mins or more , to get filled 1000 shares, at stocks like KO, AMD, TSLA, even with market type orders. Be it long or short.


Is the real platform so slow as well ?

Demo account = sim, and sim = not real. Ergo, real will be better than sim at simulating what you will experience in the real world.

It is like what Sig typed...

No broker takes more than a fraction of a second to execute a market or marketable order.

If I put it a non-conditional market order to buy or sell 1,000 shares in a stock that has a daily volume in the tens of millions, or hundreds of millions, and it did not fill immediately, I'd start thinking of finding another broker where it DOES, or trading futures. Or both? ;-)
 
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