Open The Economy... "Get Back To Normal"... ??

TreeFrogTrader said:
What are people concerned about though? Oh, I see. Deaths.

I understand how covid is different from the flu, but people are concerned about mortality rates.

If we re-open the economy and use whatever mitigation efforts can be applied while also doing a gradual opening of the economy, what mortality rate are you willing to live with?

No crabwalking please. Thanking you in advance.
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I am not as worried about mortality as the surge in hospital demand and the sick who are out of commission for 2 weeks. I am in favor of opening up with testing and mitigation so that is not the issue.

I just think people need to stop comparing this to the flu, it is a different animal even if the total deaths seems lower. Iit was still 36,000 people dead who would not be dead since Corona should be exist or have spread like it did.

I guarantee that based on the science the dead would be 100,000 - 200,000 now if we did not eventually get to a stay in place situation and getting worse and then the real shit would hit the fan.
 
El OchoCinco said:
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I guarantee that based on the science the dead would be 100,000 - 200,000 now if we did not eventually get to a stay in place situation and getting worse and then the real shit would hit the fan.
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I think it is going to get there, to that number, regardless of how we institute getting back to "normal".

The longer we drag this shit out, the longer it will take us to reach the ultimate number of deaths. We are simply dragging out the time it takes for this thing to flush through the species.

What we need more than ever, is this antibody test. Forget the whole testing if people are "positive for the COVID". That time has passed. At this point, our ONLY hope of getting the economy back in shape is to assume that EVERYONE is going to get it, and test for those antibodies, NOW! And you need to test that if those who have the antibodies can get re-infected with the same strain, before it mutates!

THAT is how we get ahead of the curve.

Otherwise, this one is going to drag on for YEARS.

We need to be able to FLY again!

 
New York needs an antibody test to prove if millions have already recovered from the virus. That many recovered people could slow virus spread. Plasma therapy or Remdesivir can reduce the death rate enough to chance reopening.
 
The biggest argument for opening is the same research a doctor from Stamford conducted. Per his analysis those who tested positive from 1,000 people, a limited sample, he estimates that total infected with anti-bodies is probably, 85 times the actual infected that is reported. Then, he wimps out that there is not enough sample to tell if it will give those with anti-bodies any protection? So, what are the chances that there are more infected people than those tested and turn out positive? Pretty high which these doctors said on more than one occasion. If we assume there are a huge number of infected people with Corona Virus who overcame it, you have to assume too that they have anti-bodies giving them immunity from catching it again or infecting anyone for that matter. Numerous doctors have said you will develop immunity but, you know the spin, we do not know enough and we have to conduct tests on everyone? Here is one more bit of information. Remember they said heat has no effect on Corona Virus? Now, they are saying heat kills the Corona Virus. Consider India with over 1 billion people, very dense population with people close to each other everywhere yet, only 14,352 infections and 486 deaths, death rate of 3.39% which is even lower than the US. The US has 320 million people, infected 710,021, deaths 37,158, 5.23% death rate. Also, compare California vs New York. California has warmer weather. Hard hit states, New York, New Jersey, Michigan have cold weather.
 
Let us also, end the BS that the Democrats are keeping the economy shutdown for the well being of their constituents? They see an opening to destroy the economy and is fine with that because they see that President Donald Trump would get the blame for it. They hope he loses the election as a result of it? I can understand the various states exchanging information and helping each other but, the coalitions they formed with mostly, Democrat governors reeks of collusion like the Democrats bogus Mueller collusion story based on a bogus Steele dossier? Now, I hope they are stupid enough to crash the economies of their state because they are playing with fire. Voters in their state including, Democrats are going to be very pissed when they see other states thriving while, they lost their jobs permanently. Chew on that extreme liberals. You are just helping re-elect President Donald Trump with this stunt and probably, make it a bloodbath for the Democrats come November 3, 2020.
 
smallfil said:
Let us also, end the BS that the Democrats are keeping the economy shutdown for the well being of their constituents? They see an opening to destroy the economy and is fine with that because they see that President Donald Trump would get the blame for it. They hope he loses the election as a result of it? I can understand the various states exchanging information and helping each other but, the coalitions they formed with mostly, Democrat governors reeks of collusion like the Democrats bogus Mueller collusion story based on a bogus Steele dossier? Now, I hope they are stupid enough to crash the economies of their state because they are playing with fire. Voters in their state including, Democrats are going to be very pissed when they see other states thriving while, they lost their jobs permanently. Chew on that extreme liberals. You are just helping re-elect President Donald Trump with this stunt and probably, make it a bloodbath for the Democrats come November 3, 2020.
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Heh, some of these dem states will start seeing people driving to Arkansas for a weekend of fun like it is Las Vegas or something. Where "fun" is defined as renting a room at the NoTell Motel and being able to go to the Pancake House.

Maybe let it all hang out, and get your BigMac and eat it right there in the "dining room." Wayyyyy to go. Live like it is 2019 again!!!

Minus the Chinese food.
 
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