Open Border Democrats 2020

[Cuddles]

It is not enforced, that is the problem. Illegal immigrants will never be held to account for the fact that they are driving on our privileges, but have no duty to serve our country. How many of them have checked that "NO" box, and then put into prison? ZERO. Not a one. Our system is flawed.

We give them license to drive in our states, while they have no obligation to defend this nation through the SSS. It is BS, because when I was growing up, I understood it was my duty. These free-loaders come in and get those same privileges, but never are held accountable for their violations? I call bullshit on the process.

So you're just assuming they don't check the box and would risk getting put in prison? I could make the same assumption about citizens, assuming costs nothing.

And to play devil's advocate, why would they want to fight for a country that treats them as criminals and with less rights than afforded to those here? You want assimilation, start welcoming people into the fold, rather than locking their infants with no due process.

Also, nice spin from the original argument.

 

[Overnight]

So you're just assuming they don't check the box and would risk getting put in prison? I could make the same assumption about citizens, assuming costs nothing.

And to play devil's advocate, why would they want to fight for a country that treats them as criminals and with less rights than afforded to those here? You want assimilation, start welcoming people into the fold, rather than locking their infants with no due process.

Also, nice spin from the original argument.

The next paycheck you get? Look at your paystub. There's some lines there on FICA and FCA and SSI and all that. Those are the taxes you pay to the federal government for your hard work.

What does it equal?

Whatever it equals, that money is going right down into the belly of someone who just crossed the border and demands free food. YOUR hard-earned-dollars are feeding people here who pay no taxes. Do you understand this?

It is the same as you taking in a boarder. Or a tenant who refuses to pay rent while consuming your resources.

Try it sometime! Take in someone, into your home, and pay for their food, energy, health care, etc etc etc. Be a good Samaritan, and see how long you can tolerate a free-loader.

 

[El OchoCinco]

That money goes to a lot of things Congress approves

 

[Cuddles]

The next paycheck you get? Look at your paystub. There's some lines there on FICA and FCA and SSI and all that. Those are the taxes you pay to the federal government for your hard work.

What does it equal?

Whatever it equals, that money is going right down into the belly of someone who just crossed the border and demands free food. YOUR hard-earned-dollars are feeding people here who pay no taxes. Do you understand this?

It is the same as you taking in a boarder. Or a tenant who refuses to pay rent while consuming your resources.

Try it sometime! Take in someone, into your home, and pay for their food, energy, health care, etc etc etc. Be a good Samaritan, and see how long you can tolerate a free-loader.

So we're back to border crosser come to milk the system while also somehow "stealing" American jobs argument?

Back in the real world, illegals hardly qualify for any non-private benefits, let alone federal & often times pay for social security taxes they can never recoup (through government issued ITINs).

And my money's going to overbloated, free-loading, national defense queens, I'd rather it go to illegals if we're talking welfare.

Also, nice spin from the original argument.

 

[Overnight]

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Back in the real world, illegals hardly qualify for any non-private benefits, let alone federal & often times pay for social security taxes they can never recoup (through government issued ITINs)...

Good grief man, you do know what Social Security taxes are for, yes? What do you mean that ITINs can never recoup taxes they paid into FICA and whatever? It's not a system they pay into for a couple years and then withdraw from like a bank.

 

[Cuddles]

Good grief man, you do know what Social Security taxes are for, yes? What do you mean that ITINs can never recoup taxes they paid into FICA and whatever? It's not a system they pay into for a couple years and then withdraw from like a bank.

Because ITIN holders aren't eligible to withdraw from Social security (unless naturalized). Do you know what Social Security taxes are for? How do you like illegals subsidizing seniors?

https://www.americanimmigrationcoun...out-individual-tax-identification-number-itin

 

[Overnight]

Because ITIN holders aren't eligible to withdraw from Social security (unless naturalized). Do you know what Social Security taxes are for? How do you like immigrants subsidizing seniors?

https://www.americanimmigrationcoun...out-individual-tax-identification-number-itin

Do you pay taxes in the USA, here4money? Are you paying into the USA system? Might as well get to the brass tax here, because you are becoming very annoying to us.

 

[Overnight]

I hope you know I am setting up for failure...Because you have a lot of validation to follow up on...

Back in the real world, illegals hardly qualify for any non-private benefits, let alone federal & often times pay for social security taxes they can never recoup (through government issued ITINs).

Prove it.

 

[Cuddles]

Do you pay taxes in the USA, here4money? Are you paying into the USA system? Might as well get to the brass tax here, because you are becoming very annoying to us.

Who is this us? Those w/wrong preconceptions who are questioned to back up their assumptions? And yes, I pay federal, state, municipal, school district, and property taxes in the US.

I hope you know I am setting up for failure...Because you have a lot of validation to follow up on...

Back in the real world, illegals hardly qualify for any non-private benefits, let alone federal & often times pay for social security taxes they can never recoup (through government issued ITINs).

Prove it.

Prove what? The federal requirement to receive benefits? The number of ITIN or fake SSN tax payers?

 

[Overnight]

Who is this us? Those w/wrong preconceptions who are questioned to back up their assumptions? And yes, I pay federal, state, municipal, school district, and property taxes in the US.

Well, does it not piss you the hell off that you are paying for freeloaders in our system, who leech and do not pay back? I mean, fair work begets fair wages! Sure! I am all for that! But sucking away money from the masses on the backs of the masses = theft in my head.