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Quote from paj:

Getting a little defensive here aren't we.

Let's recap.

1) You wrote:

"So there you go...according to that article, the larger the car, the safer it is for the driver."

2) I pointed out that your statement was incorrect by quoting the last paragraph of the article.

3) You then wrote:
"Do you think I didn't see that? I copied it in there for balance. But the guy who did the study gave the general results and they showed that the smaller vehicles aren't as safe."

Which is also incorrect. So, given this along with earlier comments, I concluded you hadn't fully read or understood the article.

You didn't like my conclusion so you accused me of being immature!
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Are you kidding me? The stuff I cut and pasted was a summary of the article, (not the entier article) and among other things, it said:

"...The smallest vehicles in any type/body style generally have the highest (death) rates..." This was a quote from McCart, who summarized his entire study.

So the stuff about the Ford Excursions wasn't the end of the article...it was a small snippet of it, which I selectively cut and pasted. I kept the Excursion stuff so that nobody could accuse me of distorting the facts by omission. In summary, bigger vehicles are safer, but there are exceptions to the rule such as certain SUVs prone to rollover.

And you didn't conclude that I hadn't fully read or understood the article. No, for all practical purposes you called me a liar because I stated that I had intentionally left the part about Ford Excusions in.

I can't argue with you anymore. You're either a troll, or you just can't keep track of argument and context.

SM
 
Quote from gnome:

LOL.. odds favor the occupant in the heavier vehicle... but don't kid yourself about the impact... the jolt is waayyy more than you imagine if the masses are close.
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Yeah like a butterfly kissing an elephants ass :p
 
Quote from TraderZones:



But of course, since it costs you a fortune to fill your tank, I am sure Tahoe drivers are now much safer, as they cannot afford to drive them anymore.

So, whatever.
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Hey if you are that poor that you buy a Civic to save a few bucks then you must be a lousy trader :cool:
 
This is a silly topic, no longer worth of economics.

I'm going to buy an Abrams tank and drive up and down the interstate. You guys can crash into me all you want and talk about kinetic energy.
 
Quote from gnome:

No. More like an elephant stomping a butterfly's butt!
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Let's not bring your sex life into this :p
 
Quote from Ivanovich:

This is a silly topic, no longer worth of economics.

I'm going to buy an Abrams tank and drive up and down the interstate. You guys can crash into me all you want and talk about kinetic energy.
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I'm going to buy one of these, and run over Civics, Smart Cars, Mini Coopers and Honda Fits.

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Quote from gnome:

More semantic BS.

1. SUV and pickup fatalities include much greater number of "rollover" deaths than passenger cars. Higher center of gravity, easier to roll over, you know.

2. In a collision between a Civic and SUV or pickup, the Civic is at a distinct disadvantage... not only less mass, but lower center of gravity.... much of the Civic's kinetic energy likely to directed BELOW the passenger compartment, slipping under the chassis of the larger vehicle, and much of the kinetic energy of the larger vehicle likely to be directed OVER THE HOOD AND INTO THE PASSENGER COMPARTMENT of the smaller vehicle.

The argument as to "which is safer" needs to be further categorized as to (1) collision with WHAT, and (2) rollover.

Except for rollover*incidents, SUVs and pickups are safer than small vehicles.

*Rollovers are bad regardless... but it's much harder to roll a vehicle with a low center of gravity than an SUV
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what has any of this got to do with the topic? The question was, what is safer to drive. it had nothing to do with running into each other. Deaths by rollover still lead to the morgue.

But I will tell you what. Since you want to partition deaths by category, let us compare having a Civic and an SUV:

going downhill at 50 MPH,
in the rain at night,
on an unfamiliar road,
and suddenly, a sharp bend appears overlooking a 1000 foot drop.

now, still want to be driving the SUV?

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Quote from TraderZones:

what has any of this got to do with the topic? The question was, what is safer to drive. it had nothing to do with running into each other. Deaths by rollover still lead to the morgue.

But I will tell you what. Since you want to partition deaths by category, let us compare having a Civic and an SUV:

going downhill at 50 MPH,
in the rain at night,
on an unfamiliar road,
and suddenly, a sharp bend appears overlooking a 1000 foot drop.

now, still want to be driving the SUV?
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Yes, with all wheel drive. My old Landrover Discovery could run circles around two wheel drive rice burners in wet weather.

SM
 
TraderZones is getting a little desperate, caps, protestations and photos..

The Civic is a shitty little gas guzzling Dodo, if you were driving an electric car I could forgive the cheerleading for a sardine can but the Civic is ending up on the same scrap heap as the SUV.. the only difference is the SUV owners will be driving to the scrap metal yard in comfort and safety :p
 
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