simply disagree, has nothing to do with an employer/employee relationship. Trading is simply about generating excess returns given an assumed level of risk. And the next question is what it takes to be successful in this endeavor. Most professional outlets seem to agree that aside a specific DNA make up a rigorous formal education and the work ethics to even get into top schools provide ample proof that the person in question has the right base ingredients to learn and be trained.
Good traders will never be "well-trained employees". They will always think outside of the box, will possibly even have personality disorders, will always be highly independent and think off the beaten path.
I think you are confusing the hustling of the average Joe with someone who is talented, worked his butt up from the ground into top academic institutions, held several part-time jobs, still managed to juggle hobbies and sports engagements. We are speaking of different worlds here. Perhaps you do not know the latter, but that is how most professional and successful traders were recruited and trained. There are always exceptions to the rule and I have nothing but the utmost respect for anyone who still made it despite his/her unconventional background.
We are speaking of different worlds. You are placing a premium on something I discount. We are on the opposite side of that trade.
What I am describing isn't the average Joe. The average Joe just wants to put in time and collect a paycheck and be satisfied with living a life on the weekends.
As a rare exception on ET, our disagreement hasn't devolved into ad hominem attacks, profanity nor disrespect via dissing.
May you experience good fortune on your chosen path.